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This diagram shows an occurrence of a double ko. (From the Large Avalanche Turn Inward joseki). The black group has one liberty at and two kos, giving him always two liberties. If White takes away a liberty by taking the ko at a, Black can take the ko at b. It is then up to White to find a ko threat. Black can answer the ko threat, and when White recaptures b, Black takes a. It is again White who has to play a ko threat, which Black can answer.
It should be clear that White cannot win in this situation - Black is alive in double ko. From the opposing view, White is dead in double ko.
This type of double ko provides the disadvantaged player (in this case, White) with an unlimited number of ko threats, which means he or she is likely to win any other kos that might arise on the board (provided they are smaller in size than the group living by double ko).
Note that in this kind of double ko life, it is necessary that some outside stones (in this case, the white stones at the top) die. It is also necessary that the inside group have an eye.
N.B. For the question how White gains from a ko threat at a, see.
Here the double ko will normally be resolved into a single (two stage) ko, but the White stones that need to die are not part of any ko shape.
This is a double ko seki. If Black takes at a White takes at b, and vice versa. Then the first player to take cannot continue locally.
An interesting feature of double ko sekis is that they supply both players with an infinite number of unremovable ko threats. If another ko arises elsewhere on the board, the game will end in triple ko if neither player is willing to give something up. This can allow an otherwise dead group to stay on the board; see moonshine life.
For another example, see double ko seki.
Alternatively, if we remove the eye, white is also dead, but now with ko threats: taking one of the kos threatens to kill the black group. (Conversely, one could say that in this diagram, black is alive in double ko.)
Two dead kos
If the outside group is unconditionally alive, white is dead. There are no ko threats for anyone in this situation. Since a white ko capture is not sente, this is not a double ko.
As in the previous diagram, the white strings are dead. It is not a double ko because a white ko capture is not sente.
This black group is involved in a number of kos, but they don't affect its status. Black cannot live by "winning" any or all of the kos. Black has only false eyes and simply dead.
In this artificially constructed example, both the chain and the chain are connected to their respective outside stones via a common double ko. Neither of the marked chains can be captured, unless one side neglects to recapture `their' KO.
These problems involve double ko. This does not necessarily mean that the solution is double, but can also mean that some attempts fail because of double ko.
- Problem 3523
- Problem 3789
- Problem 4523
- Problem 4575
- Problem 5769
- Problem 8474
- Problem 9472
- Problem 11025
maxR? Please excuse, if his is the wrong place to ask a question ó this is the first comment I write. I cannot see why White benefits from the ko-threat she gets by playing a (in the first diagram), since she needs two more threats to save the four stones at the top and return to the starting position. Why should she want to loose two threats to gain one? Please help me to see!
Bill: White does not gain anything locally from taking one of the double kos. The gain comes if there is another ko fight elsewhere. If the threat for White to live here by capturing the Black stones is big enough ó and it is big ó, then White can take one of the kos here as a ko threat for the other ko and Black will answer here, and then White can take the other ko back. Then the next time that White needs a ko threat, she still has a ko threat here. In effect, White has an infinite number of ko threats here. (Of course, it is possible to construct positions where things are not so simple, but that is the general idea.)
maxR?: Hello Bill, thank you for your explanation, now I think I understand the idea. So let's say Black takes a ko elsewhere. White takes a and forces Black to take b to save the group. Now White can take the other ko back, which was her intention from the beginning. But what keeps Black from playing 1-1 now and capture the four white stones, leaving a twisted four shape which White cannot easily kill? Is it, that White expects Black to play a threat somewhere else to be able to take the ko elsewhere again?
Slarty: Black could spend one or two moves to remove the four stones, but those moves donít make any new points, only remove Whiteís source of ko threats. Black might decide to do that but of course that is a kind of victory for White. Otherwise Black would be expected to play elsewhere because the third ko is unwinnable without sacrificing this group.
maxR?: So thatís the point I did not consider: the four stones are dead and capturing them will not bring any points. Now it makes sense, White really has a new threat immediately and I can sleep well again ó thank-you.