Lion Shape

    Keywords: Shape, Tactics

Please add more information if you have it.

Lion Shape  
Lion Shape  
Lion Shape  

torij?: This shape occurs often as a side joseki.

side pattern with Lion Shape  

This is a common way to run out to center, but black needs to take care if white has a stone at 'a'. If so, then black should in most cases block directly at 'b' in order to keep white separate.

if b over extends...  

This is a common response from black, but it is a weak shape. It is impossible for black to harass white's three weak stones now because white has either 'a' or 'b' to reach safety. White 'a' is a shape tesuji that can be found in 'Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go' by Kageyama.

Shape tesuji  

Black cannot resist white 2, so blocking at 3 is about the best thing to do.

tderz: Tenuki after W1 is a very considerable option.
If one wants to answer at all, inducing the solid connection at a by atari B2(=W3) seems better.

concept: inducing the connection  

tderz: if White cuts at a, Black connects at b,
making miai of geta c and capture d.
If White cuts at b, then extensions e or f work.

Lion Shape  

If white peeps at 1 black should respond with a, b, or c.

Alex: Why a? That looks like bad shape to me. One line above, making a second "lion shape" would appear to be correct shape to me, assuming solid connection would be too heavy.

Responding to peep at a  

White can't play 3 and 5 if black's ladder works.

Alex: That doesn't answer the question. I said it was bad shape, which is not the same thing as saying it can be cut directly. White has many possible forcing moves to choose from this way, whereas he would have none of Black connected solidly. The only reason not to connect solidly would be to a) create eyeshape, or b) treat black+circle lightly, neither of which B2 does very well. What is the motivation for this move vs. solid connection? By contrast, here is what would happen with the move I suggested as better shape... I feel Black's stones are working more efficiently here:

Better shape  

peep in general  

tderz: Reply 'a' in diagram above is a mistake by typing,
not a mystake by mystery. (learnt this pun once from JohnF: syllygism i.o. syllogism)
In above example it's even unclear to me where the edge is, i.e. whether it?s a small shimari with extension.

The hoshi shown has to be the upper center hoshi, so it couldn't be a shimari.

peep in general  

tderzGoing back to the basics or at least to what I think they are,
any peep can be either connected tightly (i.e. a, cf. EvenAMoronConnectsAgainstAPeep[1]) or
defended lightly (b/c, even d or e/f),
cf. resp. WhenNotToConnectAgainstAPeep and AmIReallyAMoronIfIDontConnectAgainstThePeep.

The mentioned g in above diagram is for special situations,depending on other white stones around white+square and in the corner (e.g. Joseki, 3rd diagram on page EvenAMoronConnectsAgainstAPeep

I read about this shape in an article recently, the diagrams I posted are all I could remember from the article. If you think any of them are incorrect please alter them or add a diagram of your own variations. I added this page in the hopes that someone could fill in the blanks(and because I couldn't find this shape anywhere on SL).


Bill: Could you tell us what article you read?[1] This is not a usual shape (which is why you didn't find anything about it on SL), and, except for the peep, these plays against it don't make much sense unless there are White stones nearby that are not shown.

reply: I think it was called 'Go Shapes'(probably a series) and it was in a copy of 'Go Winds'. There were two pages of examples of different variations/sequences. Most of them had to do with peeps, but I think there were a few that didn't.

xela: There is a very brief mention of this shape in Shape Up, chapter 3, page 44.


Cao Dayuan (W) vs. Wang Qun, 1988  

Bill: I did a GoBase search, and found that perhaps the purest form of the lion shape is this enclosure in the top right corner. The diagonal play, W9, is a common play against it. Later White got in an invasion at a.

Go Seigen (W) vs. Karigane, 1942  

Bill: Another way this shape often arises is from protecting the large knight's enclosure (white+circle) from the approach with black+circle. (Karigane had played black+circle earlier.)

Black makes life  

Bill: Later, Karigane skillfully makes life. B1 followed by B5 is a common continuation against White's corner.

Black makes life (cont.)  

Go Seigen (W) vs. Fujisawa Hideyuki, 1954  

Bill: In reply to W1 Fujisawa played B2 and B4, forming the lion shape. This kind of running shape appeared less frequently in my search than the enclosures. There were always opposing stones close by, which affects the tactics.

Shoulder hit  

Bill: Later Go Seigen played the shoulder hit at W1, possibly aiming at the wedge at a. B2 prevents that and connects Black's groups in the bottom left quadrant.

[1] This comes from a series of articles writen by Craig R. Hutchinson for Go Winds. Basically, the series goes over several 3-stone combinations near the edge of the board and covers various ways to peep at these shapes and possible responses. The author gives them creative names like "lion", "collie", "jaguar", etc. The particular article in question comes from the Winter 2004 edition,Volume 7, Number 4. The author is a well-known AGA achivist, editor, and translator of go books in the US, but I get the impression this series is inspired by his own research and is not a summary or translation of pro works. The specific edtion with "lion" is not available online, but a similar shape called "panther" is discussed in this issue, which can be downloaded: [ext]

Panther shape  

Lion Shape last edited by on June 10, 2007 - 06:04
RecentChanges · StartingPoints · About
Edit page ·Search · Related · Page info · Latest diff
[Welcome to Sensei's Library!]
Search position
Page history
Latest page diff
Partner sites:
Go Teaching Ladder
Login / Prefs
Sensei's Library