4-4 point low approach attach-block joseki

  Difficulty: Intermediate   Keywords: Joseki
[Diagram]
Attach-block  

After exchanging W1 for B2, White is left with two cutting points.

Common ways to handle this situation are:

  • a, emphasising outside influence, and
  • b emphasising side territory.

One also sees:

  • c, to build a framework, when White is already strong along the side, and
  • d (see the query about this loose connection).


Table of contents Table of diagrams
Attach-block
a: Solid connection above
b: Descent
Descent, follow-up
c: Solid connection below
Not playing atari
Not playing atari in old China
Loose connection above


Solid connection above

[Diagram]
a: Solid connection above  

White has outside influence, Black considerable territory. Black can aim at a later to start an endgame ko, i.e. White can't expect to make much territory along the edge.



Descent

[Diagram]
b: Descent  

B8 may be played at a. With B6 Black can push once more at W7, keeping White low on the upper side.

[Diagram]
Descent, follow-up  

After W1 Black can only defend at B2 and can't block at a. If Black blocks, White can play at B2 itself, taking the corner one way or another.



Solid connection below

[Diagram]
c: Solid connection below  

W3 is sometimes seen in professional games where White is strong on the upper side and does not wish to concede a large corner (as after a) or be kept low (as is likely after b).



See also

Discussion and queries

Not playing the atari?

A first interesting point about this joseki concerns W4. Can White omit this play in order to leave a weakness at the 3-3 point in the corner?

[Diagram]
Not playing atari  

That idea is really in the realm of handicap go: playing the atari is undoubtedly the honte. There is an example from a quickplay game Cho Chikun-Kato Masao 1990-09-09, as here. After W1 Black made strong shape with B2, and White invaded at once with W3, making miai of a and b.

In general this would be considered a thin way for White to play.

[Diagram]
Not playing atari in old China  

This Chinese classical joseki frequently occurs in old Chinese games when the marked stone approaches hoshi only after the two stones at the right have been played. Instead of W3, white a black b might be possible. The overall aim here is probably to settle white quickly.



Loose connection above?

[Diagram]
Loose connection above  

Patrick Traill: Leela 0.11.0, when playing against a six or seven stone handicap, sometimes plays the loose connection at W3, which I tend to treat like the solid connection, with atari at B4; Josekipedia says this is used when Black is strong nearby and suggests B4 (and further as in the diagram, quoting a Tygem special lecture, but Leela does not follow that) or B4 at B6 (no continuation) – any comments?


4-4 point low approach attach-block joseki last edited by PJTraill on March 24, 2019 - 02:18
RecentChanges · StartingPoints · About
Edit page ·Search · Related · Page info · Latest diff
[Welcome to Sensei's Library!]
RecentChanges
StartingPoints
About
RandomPage
Search position
Page history
Latest page diff
Partner sites:
Go Teaching Ladder
Goproblems.com
Login / Prefs
Tools
Sensei's Library