3-4 point distant high approach, tenuki, inside contact

Table of contents Low hane Inside hane First atari Second atari Third atari Fourth atari First extension Second extension Third extension Tenuki

Table of diagrams Inside [Attachment] Low hane Inside hane (joseki) Atari a - var 1 Atari a - var 2 Atari a - var 3 Atari a - var 4 Atari b - var 1 Atari b - var 2 Atari b - var 2 Atari c - var 1 Atari c - var 1 Fourth atari - var 1 Fourth atari - var 2 Extension c - var 1 Extension c - var 2 Extension c - var 3 Extension d - joseki Extension d - joseki (cont.) Extension d - var 1 Extension d - var 2 Extension d - var 3 Noseki Noseki Noseki Tricked ? Tricked - continued ? The other side Second Tenuki

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Dieter: After a search on Gobase, I realize one can't speak of joseki here. The variations are just too much.

Charles Matthews Brave guy! I think there are some unexplored joseki out there. I have heard tell of a Yasunaga Hajime variation that may be poorly documented.

Inside Attachment  

a ^[1], b ^[2] or tenuki ^[3]

Low hane

Low hane  

[1] In this peaceful variation, the corner temperature rapidly cools down.

Bill: And is more efficiently placed than on takamoku (b). This is better for White than the corresponding takamoku joseki.

Now a will soon become very big, both making and denying a base.

Bill: I doubt it. (That comment was made before I added . But if Black wants to attack if White omits , a is not the place to play.)

Inside hane

Inside hane (joseki)  

[2] a, b, c or d are considered joseki. The move at e is interesting but bad for Black, usually.

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First atari

Atari a - var 1  

Atari a - var 2  

Atari a - var 3  

Atari a - var 4  

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Second atari

Atari b - var 1  

Atari b - var 2  

Atari b - var 2  

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Third atari

Atari c - var 1  

Atari c - var 1  

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Fourth atari

Fourth atari - var 1  

White can probably play a little sharper now than a

Fourth atari - var 2  

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First extension

Extension c - var 1  

Extension c - var 2  

Extension c - var 3  

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Second extension

Extension d - joseki  

Extension d - joseki (cont.)  

Extension d - var 1  

Extension d - var 2  

11 @ a

Extension d - var 3  

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Third extension

Noseki  

To , is the best reply (IMO, please confirm). The corner is big.

Noseki  

This is unplayable. White will get enormous thickness and influence in all directions :

Noseki  

Tricked ?  

If here, B gets the corner and sente. It looks as if White is tricked.

Tricked - continued ?  

Dieter: What is not clear to me, is whether a is now too important for Black to play tenuki. This result somehow reminds of a result of the large avalanche but for Black having sente I think.

The other side  

This way looks fairly equal. Should Black use his sente to play a ?

I disagree with 10. It isn't needed to defend the cut, since a geta will do.

Tenuki

[3] DaveSigaty: You mentioned a second tenuki by Black at the top but did not show any variations. It is actually Black's most frequent choice (per GoGoD, I didn't confirm on Gobase), so it should also be considered joseki, no ? :).

Second Tenuki  

White most often plays 3 to which Black answers with a, b, or a third tenuki.