Ongoing Game 6
Rules:
- Komi is 6.5 for this game.
- Discussion of moves in /Discussion.
- Please play on one team only.
Teams: (add your name when you join the game)
- Black team: tapir, JoelR, ThorAvaTahr, Holigor, kb, Celebrir, Ttoxcs?, Dieter
- White team: fractic, Herman, JG, Andy, Hylebos, IanDavis, k43r, Jay?, Batavia?, MrTenuki, symplicity, thanatos13
Game over. W+7.5, great job White!
Keep track of captured stones here:
- are mandatory defense moves and were not played in the actual game
Score White (/):
Left: 33 Top: 10 Right: 10 Bottom: 10 Captures: 5 Komi: 6.5 Total: 74.5
Score Black (/):
Bottom Left: 1 Bottom Right: 4 Center: 11 Top left: 2 Top Right: 48 Captures: 1 Total: 67
White wins by 7.5
: kb
: Andy: Hey, I thought I saw jump off the bottom of the board. :) I'm moving again because wasn't exciting enough to constitute an entire move.
: kb: I put it in the wrong place the first time. :(
: herman: sente followup to
: HolIgor: was sente, indeed.
: fractic: Almost done.
: kb
: herman: another 1 point gote.
: kb: ditto
: Herman: Defending is mandatory here, and removes aji. Only dame are left, AFAICS.
: ThorAvaTahr: I am not sure but i think this is the best response
: Herman: endgame getting smaller and smaller :)
ThorAvaTahr: Did you mean deiri?
: JG
: tapir
: Herman: defend
: ThorAvaTahr: Reverse sente (miai value 1)
: Herman: Obvious
: Dieter obvious
: Andy not too exciting
: ThorAvaTahr Are we letting go of the rotation rule in favor of getting the endgame finished quickly? Ok with me. :)
: Andy: take a point
: tapir: take two/three points
: Herman: Almost done.
: ThorAvaTahr: Sente (miai value 1)
: Herman: obvious
: ThorAvaTahr: Reverse sente (miai value 1)
: Andy: followup to W112
: kb
: fractic: Another small sente.
: kb
: Andy: I think this is ok.
: JoelR: Extending the whatsit.
: JG: It is only a shicho. I hope...
: ThorAvaTahr: The exact miai value of this move is not clear to me but it surely is larger than 1 point
: JG: It is not really my turn, but someone has to play the yose or the game will never end. The chosen move should be safe.
: Dieter: Captured stone at
: Herman
: Dieter (c'mon guys, let's finish it)
: fractic
Joelr: forced.
: MrTenuki
: Keep it going (Dieter)
: Herman: Corner is always big :)
: Tapir
: fractic: I don't feel like playing this ko.
: ThorAvaTahr: Hmm ok.. then how about I take this stone?
: Andy: Sure, go ahead and take it.
: Tapir: Not sure about...
: Herman: Defending
Joelr sente
thanatos13 but it's not a reduction, I'm leaving two small ko threats for one point at j5.
ThorAvaTahr: Corner is always big :)
: Batavia: pick up a point
: Dieter
: symplicity
: Tapir
: JG More symplicity.
: tapir
: Batavia: nothing to say here either
: ThorAvaTahr: even though it looks small I am convinced it is large enough to play. (At very least it is a reverse sente point)
: fractic: Both sides have good follow ups after playing here.
: kb
: Starting the 'i love gote' club
: Dieter
: Andy
: Tapir
: Hylebos: Things are wrapping up nice and quick like. Huzzah.
: HolIgor: It looks like a moment to score the game. Could players try to post their estimates of the result? Herman: I posted one under /Discussion three moves ago :)
: fractic: Hard to pick a move right now. This looks big enough though.
: tapir: Gote, but i hope big enough.
: Andy: I hope this isn't aji keshi.
: kb
: thanatos13: I like this move.
: Dieter
: Herman: Captured stone at
: Joelr: This is gote after the loss of
: Batavia?: Gote, but at least it destroys some of black's possible points
: ThorAvaTahr: feels big to answer here
: Hylebos: I could play safely, but that would be boring. Lets see how black plays here.
: JoelR: Black plays a boring move.
: Andy: Take some chip shots over here now.
: tapir: To prevent disaster (i.e. death through boredom)
: Herman: Double sente, IMO
: Dieter.
: JG: It would be costly if B pushed through here.
: JoelR: Maybe this is the biggest move.
: thanatos13: looks fun, let's complicate things!
: Tapir answers... No!
: symplicity: Yaaah!
: kb
: Andy: not reading too deeply here
: JoelR: touch and go...
: fractic: Let's just keep sente and be happy with that.
: ThorAvaTahr: oki, connect!
: Batavia? B didn't answer my small gote move here earlier so lets see what else we can do here. (and black of course shouldn't look at the discussion page for the comments made there)
: Ttoxcs? Let's see what your up to.
: Herman: See monkey, do monkey :)
: Tapir played this by basic instinct.
: MrTenuki: Let's get something out of .
: kb
: Andy
: Dieter
: Hylebos: Nothing wrong with this move I suppose.
: JoelR: Still dealing with .
: Batavia?: feel like another move here is needed. upper right turned out to be huge for black
: ThorAvaTahr: There are many urgent moves, but I would like to get this one for black first.
: Herman: Can I cut here, please? ;-)
: HolIgor: Desperately trying to prevent eye formation,
: Andy: I think this gets white at least a seki here. I would love for this to have been done in sente, but couldn't figure out a way. I think the game is close now.
: ThorAvaTahr: Despair won't kill white's group, let's try to find big endgame moves :)
: fractic: is very big. Let's first finish this monkey jump here.
: JoelR: Choosing among the forced moves.
: Batavia?: Small gote move, feel free to ignore this ;-)
: HolIgor: Just to restart this. A self-demaging move. I hope it is sente, so black will have time to think how to respond to .
: Batavia?: Told you is just a small gote move ;-). but i think connecting all the stones here is big enough
: JoelR: This move was more fun before , but I still think it's big enough.
: Herman: Lets put a dent in this area :)
: Defending B105. Tapir.
: Andy: I can't help but feel white has used a sub-optimal move order here.
: Celebrir: Defending against the cut.
: IanDavis: Captain always wins
: HolIgor The result may be desastrous.
: Batavia? Cut first, ask questions later
: ThorAvaTahr: It seems we get to keep the corner ;)
: Batavia? maybe some more false eyes will help us
: kb
: Herman: More eyeshape
: Celebrir: No, I guess it is really a sente monkey...
: Andy: That'll do monkey; that'll do.
: ThorAvaTahr: connect
: Herman: Banzai!
: Celebrir: Taking the risk that the whole black team is going to kill me, I guess this move is the best one. But I have to admit that is a very painful for black.
: JG: Cannot think of anything else.
: kb
: Batavia?: trying to see if we can save some aji here
: JoelR: Too many cut points. really hurts.
: fractic: Let's get some forcing moves
: JoelR: Prove it.
: Jay?: So basically white is down by (by my counting) 20+ points. This is a marginally risky invasion, probably should have gone deeper somewhere.
: Celebrir: Joining the Black team, because it has less members and has to make a move.
: Herman: Lets see how black responds :)
: tapir
: JG: Not a tenuki. In the hope of finding out what meant.
: kb
: Andy
: ThorAvaTahr: Seems like a big endgame move to me
: Hylebos: A sente monkey's jump? Do my eyes decieve me?
: Tapir: No comment :)
: k43r: Looks natural
: ThorAvaTahr: Defend
: fractic: Making some eyeshape while keeping an eye on the bottom.
: JoelR: Solidifying the top.
: Andy: Get in some forcing moves to live in the center
: HolIgor: Let's do some more fighting.
: Herman: obvious
: ThorAvaTahr: I will take the blame for not following up on , but I didn't know just how. This looks big as well, I would not like a white move in this area.
: JG: So many places to play. Let's try some MutualDamage.
: Joelr: use the ladder-maker
: Andy: cut while you can
: tapir: Run white!
: fractic: No way to avoid a game deciding fight now.
: ThorAvaTahr: only move?
: Herman: Making shape.
: kb
: JG: It is hard to find a move. A leaning attack might work.
: HolIgor: Keep on fighting.
: Andy: just to keep things moving.
: Tapir
: Andy
: kb: I can almost put my foot in it!
: JG: White is thicker than Black. Time to go all-out.
: joelr: good stone to have in a fight.
: fractic: Gotta keep cutting.
: tapir: Basic instinct.
: IanDavis: Captain the best
: HolIgor: Accept the challenge.
: JG: No-one else wants to play, so here goes.
: Andy: expand the left while crushing black's dreams of a huge center :)
: Joelr: I do feel crushed, and must respond.
: JG: White has enough local strength for this move.
: tapir
: fractic: Obvious.
: ThorAvaTahr: Feels like correct shape here
: Herman
: kb
: Hylebos: I get to make an easy move for once. Yay!
: HolIgor: Fight.
: Andy: complicated. I think white can play this way because the ladder is good for her. I hope I didn't screw this up too badly.
: JG: assumed this move is OK. Let's find out!
: Joelr: Time to escape!
: fractic: Time to capture this stone.
: ThorAvaTahr: Although it seems to make the group heavy, I still like to play the solid connection.
: Hylebos: I get the feeling that this game is going to be a bit tough for white.
: kb: Don't like to break the one-move-per-board rule, but no one else is playing.
: Herman: Only move
: Tapir: Returning to the left. I'm not too confident with this move... but we will need some strength to deal with the white framework(s) later.
: Andy: Just keep this simple for now.
: HolIgor: It is difficult to play low now. Let's try keshi.
: fractic: Letting Black invade the top after could endanger our two stones at the top right. I think this points strikes the best balance when it comes to defending the top.
: kb: Time to live.
: anonymous: ok
: JoelR: always push
: JG: White should try to stay connected, even though Black will probably push through and cut.
: ThorAvaTahr: In for a penny, in for a pound...
: Hylebos: Surely the hane can't be too dangerous, right?
: Holigor: The previous move by the black very much determines this reply. Black takes the corner and is ready to endure some kikashi.
: JG The only move?
: JoelR The only move.
: Andy: I'm happy to get this easy white move. The next white move is going to require some thought.
: Tapir: Grab the initiative?
: fractic: I'm afraid this move is too heavy but letting Black capture at this point would remove pretty much all the aji in the corner. I just couldn't find a good alternative.
: kb: Thick.
: Herman: Capture stone at
: ThorAvaTahr: I am thinking of several strange moves but let's just try a normal (-looking) move :) At least it is big :)
: JG: Natural response to . It was hard to decide between this point and the nearby star point.
: Holigor: On a boundary of two big spheres of influence.
: Herman: Let's be nasty to this stone :)
: ThorAvaTahr: Ouch that looks like a big corner. But let's just push down the other corner and see if white's high position still works well together.
: JG: The boundary of two frameworks. Which side White should push out?
: Tapir.
: Andy: I think this keeps a good balance.
: JoelR: There's still some aji in . Time to take the big point.
: fractic: Let's play a probe here.
: ThorAvaTahr: Well, it looks like a good probe, because I don't know which response to play here, keeping in mind the low stone
: Herman: Cut first, think later.
: tapir: No comment.
: fractic: I don't play the 3-3 point often. So for a change: .
: JoelR: I do play the 3-5 point often. I'm curious how it interacts with the 3-3 point.
: Herman: Well then, for kicks, lets throw in a 5-4 point as well] ;-)
: ThorAvaTahr: Haha! Another game, count me in :) (sorry, no fancy moves from my part :P )
: JG: This feels good after .
: Is this tapir's move?
: Andy: It looks like black's stones are going to slide off the right side of the board.
: JoelR: Either Andy dared me to play on the left, or the right. I'm not sure.
: fractic: This going to work well with .