BQM 427

    Keywords: Joseki, Question

Tapir: This seems to be joseki. I admit I don't understand W6 very well. This move is fast paced and seems to be quite flexible - <s>despite</s> due to the always possible cut at b. In amateur games (at least at my level) however, I more often see W6 at a (together with a ladder towards the lower right to make the cut impossible)... How and when is W6 used?

Velobici: W6 does not appear in Essential Joseki, Even Game Joseki or Ishida's Dictionary of Basic Joseki. Only the Dictionary of Basic Joseki shows White playing at a, and only when there is a black stone at the top side star point. A GoBase search reveals 100+ instances of W6, so its a known way of play. Lee Sedol played it against Lee Changho on 3 June 2006 as part of the 19th Fujitsu Cup and won by 4.5 points. Others that have played it include: Yamashita Keigo, Chang Hao, and Nie Weiping.

Tapir: In my personal (not very large) database there are much more W6 than White at a. Is this Joseki? How to follow-up?

1st thought - cutting is possible but only in gote  

Dieter: As a first comment, your statement " ... seems to be quite flexible - despite the always possible cut ..." points at a misunderstanding of flexibility. The possibility of a cut is precisely what characterizes flexibility: it is on the contrary the certainty of connection which reduces flexibility, because all the connected stones must be saved together, or given up together. A group in such state is called heavy.


Secondly, any light jump like W6 here, or a, has a special, or whole board purpose, for extending at the side is normal or conventional. Either White cannot extend at the side (there is a black stone there), or he doesn't want to (he likes a central stone better, in its relationship with the rest of the board - think (superficially) Takemiya).

Joseki - tenuki  

In a way, this is also "joseki". White willingly sacrifices W2 for a modest presence at the top and the extra stone played elsewhere. The local result is unbalanced, but viewed in the light of the whole board position, it can fit the player's strategy, style or mood of the day. It's the same with the move under discussion.

Tapir: I agree. But what I don't know exactly how to play flexible (like those amateur players preferring a in the first diagram). Even Takemiya et al. don't play one line further away afaik. My question is, what is the relation between the stones here? Which play is light? Which is thin only?

Illustration I - Black needs a defending move  
Illustration II - Not enough relation between the white stones  

BQM 427 last edited by velobici on October 6, 2011 - 20:15
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