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bugcat: conversation on updating the article (2021-10-03 10:06) [#11877]

This article was last updated in May 2019, which is astounding to me considering that she's very likely the most famous professional under eighteen years old.

We're missing almost her entire career -- she only became a professional at the end of March of that year.

Admittedly, the article doesn't have a huge number of hits, about 850. But I don't know of a single article created since the start of 2019 that has as many as Sumire's has. For all I know, Sumire's article might be the most popular made in the last three years.

Here's a list of resources. Instead of just dumping them at the bottom of the article and sending the reader on their way, let's try to fold in the content if we can.

One important change that needs to be made is to show that she was promoted to 2p. Sure, we could just add that, but it might as well be done as part of a proper program of maintenance that would set up the article for next year.

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bugcat: continuing conversation (2021-10-03 22:12) [#11878]

More casual info: she played (and lost) an exhibition game against Seo Bongsoo a while ago.

She also played (and lost) against Iyama Yuta in the Shin Ryusei. That tournament also needs an article -- I thought I'd made one, but I guess I only discussed it a bit on the OGS forum. Fairbairn made a thread about the Shin Ryusei on L19.

We can probably also find a few video reviews of her games to add, like from Yeonwoo. Here's Yeonwoo's review of Sumire's game against Korean 9p Seo Neungwook (Seo Neung-uk, ie. [ext] this guy).

[ext] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUOVozdgvbU

She was even used to promote a brand of barbecue sauce at one point.

Sumire competed in the Wu Qingyuan Cup as well. iirc she was able to take her first international victory there.

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bugcat: continuing conversation (2021-10-03 22:20) [#11879]

It turns out, btw, that I was wrong about Sumire's article being the most popular since the start of 2019 / in the last three years.

[ext] Yeonwoo's page was created in December 2019 and has just under 3,400 views.

Also, [ext] Covid19 and Go (est. August 2020) has a very similar amount to the Sumire article.

The page on [ext] Lizzie was also started in May 2019 and has about 5,300.

So fair enough, 850 views is not quite as much as I presented it as.

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bugcat: ((no subject)) (2021-11-16 19:59) [#11938]

I think she played in the Globis Cup international U-20 this year, but didn't do very well.

Wikipedia says that "she started playing the ancient board game with her father when she was three and has been competing in national tournaments in Japan since she was seven."

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bugcat: ((no subject)) (2021-11-17 17:03) [#11950]

Sumire beat Ueno Asami a few days ago, in the Fumakiller event, an exhibition tournament of four female Japanese professionals. [ext] L19 post

This was apparently the first time she had beaten Ueno, although it was "only an exhibition game".

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Jono64a: Number of hits for this page is now 5,898. (2024-10-04 20:22) [#12518]

Just saw this page. You were certainly right that a page on one of the top prodigies needed a lot more information. Hope I’ve fixed the problem a bit. Number of hits for this page is now 5,898.

I hope she will do what other girl prodigies have not: seriously challenge for the top of either sex. They start off breaking age records, but then male players overtake them.

Promotion also seems very slow now. Koreans rise through dan ranks much quicker, although it’s not clear they are necessarily stronger than lower-ranked Japanese players. Sumire has plus scores against much higher ranked players in both Japan and Korea. But she still remains 3p.

Korean 9 dans Choi Jung and Kim Eunji really do seem to be a cut above all other female players, but are Korean 9 dans O Yujin and Kim Chaeyoung really stronger than similarly aged top Japanese women Ueno Asami 5p and Fujisawa Rina 7p?

I get that Cho Hye-yeon deserves to be 9p because she was world #1 once and #2 for years behind only the great Rui Naiwei. Both have dropped strength with age, but at their best they would have been competitive with today's top women.

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2603:9001:6e0b:2694: More on tardy promotion (2024-10-14 04:09) [#12524]

Sumire keeps winning games and improving her rating. But Japan and Korea seem to be leaving it it to the other federation to promote her. Several Korean players have been promoted by a fan rank, but not Sumire. E.g. Kim Minseo was promoted from 3p to 4p despite having a lower rating, winning fewer games, and losing the only game with Sumire. There might be promotion rules that I am not aware of, but it seems that Sumire is long overdue. She is now the 5th highest female player in Korea and often beats much higher dan players.

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Jono64a: Number of hits 6605; Why no promotion? (2024-11-25 05:35) [#12533]

This page is getting a lot of hits now. Now we are just waiting for Sumire to be promoted at least two dan ranks, commensurate with her rise to #5 female player in Korea, with plus scores against the 9 dans ranked #3 and #4.

 
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