BQM178

2 elsewhere  

what about this?
- I think this doesn't belong here, this is an approach to a "standard" shimari since black plays 3 it is not a 4-5 joseki anymore.

My Game2  

it went like this in my game. there were only hoshi stones at the rest of the board. was it a mistake to invade or did he make a mistake in the joseki?

AJP: Definite mistake to invade. Way too early for this. I would just play at , seal white into the corner or press white low on the upper side, end in sente and use the black wall for a moyo. Black's high shimari means black is looking for influence (otherwise black would have made the low shimari) and white invading like that just gives black what he wants. may have use as a probe later, when it is less clear whether the corner is more or less valuable than the outside, but certainly not when there are only hoshi stones on the rest of the board.