# Answers To The Hane Discussion

Keywords: Shape, Tactics

This page is fired off by the basic instinct page, in which the statement Answer the hane with an extension was criticized.

### 1. Answering the hane with an extension?

hane -> nobi

Reasons:

• Increases liberties
• Threatens to cut the hane next

Exceptions:

### 2. Rather HaneKaeshi or CrossCut

Of course, the surrounding conditions make a big difference, but in general I think that the extension is not so good. It gives the opponent the opportunity to make good shape.

hane -> nobi? Not!

If Black continues with Black 3, the shape is the same as if Black had played hane at the head of two stones. (See BasicInstinct 4.)

Doesn't the value of a Hane decrease as the string of stones gets longer?

Dieter: There's a balance in it. On 1, 2, 3 stones the hane leads to atari in 1, 2, 3 more moves. So, while the remaining effort increases, so does the value of capturing an increasing number of stones. 4 stones is the critical number. A "hane at the head" of 4 still leaves the chain with 5 liberties, which is often considered the threshold for tactical stability. Depending on the situation however, there can still be a lot of value in a hane here, compared to the risk of being cut.

The first thing I think about is a CrossCut. True, that gives the opponent a chance to extend. (See BasicInstinct 3.) However, that is not so bad. You were cut, anyway. :-)

But perhaps the counter-hane should be the first thing to think about.

Counter-hane
Counter-hane (ii)

The most tempting response is to play atari-atari, but then Black has to protect his weakness with Black 5. Now White 6 captures the black stone in geta.

Counter-hane (ii a)

KarlKnechtel: How about this atari-atari? If Black is protected on either side (e.g. by a stone at any of the marked points, or some other ladder breaker) then there is time to protect on the other, and it's like one giant crosscut. Otherwise probably not good for Black overall, though.

Counter-hane (iii)

Black 1 can play atari with sente, but then Black has two cutting points at a and b to worry about.

Counter-hane (iv)

If Black protects, White can do the same.

Counter hane (v)

If Black extends, White can play kikashi with White 2 - Black 3, and then protect with the hanging connection of White 4. White treats the marked stone lightly.

Different conditions

When the marked stone is present, the nobi is a good response. One of the reasons is that if Black plays at a, he reduces his own liberties.