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Dieter: bits of discussion (moved from main page) (2023-12-05 11:44) [#12331]
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Possible alternative: 3-5 point distant low approach  

Imagist: In all seriousness, this actually does prevent the taisha.


Tamsin: For what my thoughts are worth...don't avoid what you fear, but confront it! If you want to get strong, take on the challenge. Study the taisha and study the large avalanche, and feel confidence when things get wild!

Bob McGuigan: The Workshop Lectures, volume 1, by Yang Yilun, published by Slate and Shell has very good material on playing complicated joseki. It is based on the idea that if you pay attention to fundamentals you can play these joseki without having to memorize thousands of variations.

Imagist: For beginners (20k or weaker) I do think it's best to avoid the taisha since the fighting that it leads to is pretty far beyond their comprehension, so there isn't likely to be much learning. But I personally love the taisha, since it gives me a chance to practice reading.

Tas: Why do a 20k even know the taisha? As a beginner the time is far better spent developing a basic instinct, than to memorize a complicated joseki sequence.


Bob McGuigan: I think Bill pointed out that, strictly speaking, once Black plays black+circle there is no way to avoid the taisha. This page shows how to avoid the more complicated variations. Calling the page The Taisha: How To Avoid the More Complicated Variations isn't as catchy a title, though. For White to avoid the black+circle move White's first move in that corner would have to be something other than komoku or else, assuming White played first in the corner, White should not tenuki when Black approaches.

We could use How to simplify the taisha? --Hyperpapeterie

On the main taisha joseki page Charles makes a comment about taisha proper being the complex variant taisha linguistically indeed refers to the ogeima leading to it.


Author (so far): AvatarDJFlux, WME 2011 Tapir

 
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