Shodan Go Bet

   

The Shodan Go Bet is a bet between John Tromp and Darren Cook? made in 1997.

The Challenge

In 1997, Darren posted a question on the computer go mailinglist:

At the recent FOST Cup I asked the participants two questions. When do you think a computer will be shodan level? and when do you think a computer will be able to beat any human player? Shodan level is 'international shodan', which is maybe 3 dan in Japan, 2 dan in America, 1-dan in Europe.

John Tromp replied with: I wonder if people would still make such optimistic estimates if they had to back it up with, say, a $1000 bet. I (a Dutch 1kyu in 1997) would happily bet that I won't be beaten in a 10 game match before the year 2011.

and Darren accepted under the following conditions: Yes, assuming these conditions:

  1. It can be anyones program - it does not have to be mine :-).
  2. It need not be the commercially available version (to prevent you learning weaknesses).
  3. I can choose the year to play and don't have to wait until 2011.

And so the bet was on.

2010 Results

In December 2010, John Tromp won the match with a score of 4-0, playing against Many Faces of Go. The games were played with a 110 minute sudden death time limit. The match to decide the bet was held at the [ext] London Open Tournament in December 2010. John was then an EGF 2 Dan, according to the European Go Database.

John Tromp wins 4-0
1st Game 28 December 2010 John Tromp Many Faces of Go White won by resignation [ext] sgf
2nd Game 28 December 2010 Many Faces of Go John Tromp Black won by resignation [ext] sgf
3rd Game 29 December 2010 John Tromp Many Faces of Go White won by resignation [ext] sgf
4th Game 29 December 2010 Many Faces of Go John Tromp Black won by resignation [ext] sgf

2012 rematch

There was a rematch in 2012, with Zen (go program) as the challenger this time. See [ext] http://gogameguru.com/man-machine-showdown-board-game-go/ for the full story.

Zen19N wins 3-1
1st Game 13 January 2012 John Tromp Zen19N White won by resignation [ext] sgf
2nd Game 14 January 2012 Zen19N John Tromp White win by 18.5+ [ext] sgf
3rd Game 15 January 2012 John Tromp Zen19N Black won by resignation [ext] sgf
4th Game 16 January 2012 Zen19N John Tromp White won by resignation [ext] sgf

Links

Official website: [ext] http://dcook.org/gobet/

Other websites with info:


Shodan Go Bet last edited by Dieter on July 31, 2014 - 15:58
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