# Hane-descend

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Keywords: EndGame, Ko

Chinese: -
Japanese: ハネサガリ (hanesagari)
Korean: -

This is a quite special endgame technique.

Hane-descend

Assume the / exchange has just been played: so that is the hane play in the title.

In this case the descent is the best available defence for the stone. If Black played at a White might at some later point gain by playing at .

Since b is a neutral point, White will have no reason to play there except as a ko threat.

Let's look at the ko threats here.

White's ko threats

Certainly White should start at . Then there are three threats. If , Black at , White has only one threat.

Alternative

This could seemingly improve on of the previous diagram. There is no real difference to White's threats.

But now Black has no threat at a. With the given configuration White has two threats, net, here.

Simple connection

Fhayashi: For my own clarification, the alternative to the above, playing at , allows White a, Black b, which is one point worse than the above, but offers White no ko threat, right?

Charles Correct. Or, being pedantic, White a is likely to be 2/3 point in sente.

By the way, there is no 'exchange rate' in the endgame between points of territory and ko threats. I think this might be added to the assumptions of yose problems page.

In real life there might for example be a large approach ko left on the board, meaning that one would trade-off points against ko threats to some limited extent.

unkx80: May I also mention in passing that hane-descent is also commonly used in life and death, as in the example below.

Hane-descent.

is the only possible way to make life.

Hane-descent.

The result is a ko.

Charles It's obviously a day for nit-picking:

Another way to ko

Starting with is usual in pro games. Still a ko, but in realistic position ( not necessarily present) this might lose fewer points if White loses, and certainly is more solid for White if she wins by capturing .

I see this is discussed on the J groups page; but I seem to be disagreeing with the detail of what is said under straight J groups.

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Hane-descend last edited by hnishy on May 28, 2018 - 08:22