BQM 452

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Hyperpapeterie: After white enters the corner, plays at a and b are normal, but my opponent instead played at 4. I'd never thought about this move before, and played c. We talked about a, d and e during review, of which I liked a best (it just now occurred to me that b might have potential.

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3-3 Invasion  


The continuation went like this:

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I assume W9 would've been better at a, because...

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Here's how I thought of a going, though W6 might be played at a if this fight is not good for W:

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3-3 Invasion  


Have other people thought about this move and are my responses any good or (more likely) bad? (Feel free to modify my diagrams if it would help).


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business as usual  

Andy Pierce: You could just proceed according to the original plan. Later, you have a potential forcing move at a, or slightly more corner territory with b, at your discretion. This can't be worse for you than the usual corner corner joseki, and might be better.

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better for white.  

Actually, the W6, B7 exchange in "business as usual" looks like a loss for white, so you might just skip this and go directly to W8 with W6. B3 looks a little aimless here; black would prefer this stone to be at b, which is where it should have been in the first place.

tapir: White has c later like this.


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3-3 Invasion  

unkx80: W7 is territorially large, and is a move I won't easily let go. B10 causes an empty triangle to form.

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3-3 Invasion  

unkx80: I imagine this sequence will happen. Seems pretty good for White.

W11 can consider playing at a too. Might be even better than this sequence.

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3-3 Invasion  

unkx80: B6 has the option of just playing here and obtain sente. Later, White can aim at a, so Black b would be pretty large.

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Reversion  

Dave: Note that the above reverts to one variation of the 4-4 Point Low Approach One Space Low Pincer Low Double Approach.



MrTenuki: White also has to find a way to counter B6 below, which is known to be a bad play when B4 is at a.

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Hane  
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Hane  

fractic: The clamp of W7 works. the exchange of B6 for W9 is as bad as ever. I don't think this is the best you can do though. Perhaps cutting with W7 works. I'm not sure.


BQM 452 last edited by Dieter on March 31, 2009 - 11:56
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