BQM 220

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Making Good Shape problem 133 has the question "How can Black make the White stones heavy".

Black to play  

My inner kyu level player says Black should kick at a.

Black to play  

The book by Rob van Zeijst has this solution diagram.

Seems to me that the corners/side is still invadable in either diagram. The kick (a in the first diagram) is often used to make the opponents stones heavy. With the marked Black stone in place, this seems particularly effective, White is denied the common extension to in the following diagram. So why not kick?

Andy: Indeed. What is white trying to accomplish with W2 here? Presumably B1 and black+square are attackable due to considerations of the board not shown in the diagram and the white stones have sufficient support from the center such that their life is not a concern. Then white can use them in support of an invasion under the black stones on the left side. Otherwise, this doesn't seem playable for white and W2 is just wishful thinking on black's part. If B1 and black+square are not attackable, then it isn't much of a loss for white to let them connect to black's stones on the left side so white might as well enter the corner directly rather than connecting the peep.

The kick  
Black to play  

Dieter: Let's have a look at the corner invasion as an answer to Black's peep. I assume this is best for both. Since B1 is labeled as a genuine threat, B9 must be big. In any case, Black's connection is strong and big.

Black to play  

I think that here, White can play elsewhere or even check Black's marked stone with W2. The threat of B1 is not so big.

Black to play  

Alex: White could also exchange W2 for B3. It loses the chance to invade san-san, but is sente and reduces the danger of Black a. Later, W b may be sente, since it threatens to connect with c. It also creates aji at d. Also important is the fact that White has a potential eye on the edge, whereas in the solution diagram, White has no eyeshape at all.


Bill: My inclination, as White, would be to hane, also. One thing to remember is that W2 in this diagram is a light response to B1. If W2 is already there, this is a disincentive to play B1. Better to simply protect the corner. And if Black is going to do that, better to make White heavy first.

Charles Matthews Not so simple at all.

Diagonal attachment  

There are plenty of pro games in which B1, W2 are seen. Often this is when White has a stone at or around c. In those cases Black's follow-up can be at d. That is, Black is trying to play lightly here. Obviously a pro avoids the Black a/White b exchange if it later would look 'from the wrong side'. Here White at or near x might help connect. Black will not mind that, if White x is passive, relative to the whole board position.

Bill: Yes, you have to play the whole board. It would be interesting to compare the conditions under which the peek is preferred and the conditions under which the diagonal attachment is preferred.

(Later.) I have searched GoBase for this pattern, and similar ones. So far I have not found a single case in pro play where Black (or White in the corresponding pattern) played first. The lesson seems to be that the defender should not tenuki in this position. ;-)

Tanaka Minaichi (W) vs. Kobayashi Chizu  

Bill: I found exactly two similar examples on GoBase, this one, from 1978, where Black played the diagonal attachment, and

Tsujii Ryotaro (W) vs. Ito Hiroshi (i)  

this one, from 1973, where Black played the peep. In both White has played the hasami-kaeshi? at white+circle.

Tsujii - Ito (ii)  

BQM 220 last edited by on June 8, 2015 - 17:48
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