4-4 point, low approach, tenuki, 3-3 invasion

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Taw (total beginner): What to do if White invades at 3-3 after Black's tenuki ?

Kakari and 3-3 invasion (2 tenuki)  

Unlike the unsupported invasion at 3-3, neither of the following seems very good for Black. Of course my intuition may be completely wrong.

Variant 1  
Variant 2  

lavalyn: While I "know" that B3 in variant 2 is considered an overplay in many cases, I've yet to see a good argument for that. How goes the usual punishment for the hane at the head of two?

Variant 2 Punishment  

adamzero: Black now either loses the top single stone B3, giving White a strong position on the fourth line with good influence, or his three stone group, giving White some nice territory and totally blighting Black's initial corner stone with no compensation. I've found some players making this mistake occasionally all the way up around 2 kyu. It's sort of amazing.

Variant 2.1  

Charles Matthews There is something about this at pushing battles in joseki 4. But Variant 2.1 is the common sequence in pro games.

Variant 2.2  

Bill: B3 is inconsistent with B1, which aims at cutting White in two. After W4, if now B6 then W5 is bad for Black. Black has nothing better than to protect with B5 and now W6 connects.

unkx80 B3 is essentially a reversion to 4-4 point one-space low pincer invasion, interception#3.

4-4 point, low approach, tenuki, 3-3 invasion last edited by Unkx80 on April 18, 2009 - 23:39
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