Beginner Game Sample 1

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I am a beginner and try to learn on my own. Here is a game of mine against computer (gnuGo 3.2) with my comments. I would really appreciate if you spend some time and comment too. Orcun

Moves 1 to 10

Moves 1 to 10  

B1: Orcun I don't know if it is easy for the computer but still I wanted to play on the upper right corner :)

mAsterdam It is a good custom to do so, and this one is played a lot.

B7: Orcun I didn't want just to defend my corner, but to connect with B5 also.

Charles Matthews B7 is too close. One point to the left would be quite good, though: a close pincer. Two points to the left, even better.

Andre Engels The shape of W6, B7 and W8 is one that one should avoid (with black). Standing with its back against the wall like this, the black stone is not able to exert its strength.

B9: Orcun I guess it is a big threat now. I am not sure about my response.

Charles Matthews Wrong idea. Extending to a instead will keep the corner out of trouble. Don't provoke damaging plays on the second line:

Natural exchange  

From a human point of view, B1 asks for W2 here, which then weakens Black on both sides.

W10: Andre Engels This feels like a bad time to play tenuki.

Moves 11 to 20

Moves 11 to 20  

B1: Orcun It is my turn to attack, besides I didn't want to play on the sides soon since I already had one.

Andre Engels The same bad shape as B7 in the previous diagram; black a would be the normal move here. 'Attacking' is not the word I would like to use for either. Black b in the lower right looks big.

B3: Orcun I thought the response would be W3, so I was surprised. Well maybe she (my computer didn't want me to direct to so seems my corner on the upper right.

Andre Engels: W2 at 3 indeed looks better.

W4: Andre Engels This position in the upper left corner should never be left alone. The difference between white c and black d is simply too big.

B5: Orcun This , I guess, is definitely not a good move, Since It is not my cormer yet and I face a white wall on the left.

Andre Engels Apart from the remark above for W4, this move is perfectly acceptable.

B7: Orcun She claims her corner and I accept it but I don't want her to connect with W4.

Charles Matthews Black played quite well here. B9 at a is considered better.

Andre Engels Good.

B9: Andre Engels I always say it's a good sign when people make this mistake. This should be the first move that comes to one's mind in this shape (Hane at the Head of Two Stones), however in this specific position (with W4 on the board) it does not work. See 4-4 point one-space low pincer invasion, interception for a discussion of this move.

W10: Andre Engels Bad move, now black gets what he wants.

Moves 21 to 30

Moves 21 to 30  

B3: Orcun I thought she was on the losing line and wanted her to continue.

Andre Engels Correct

B5: Orcun I couldn't find a good response, maybe the right one was N17 ( I am sorry, should be B8 ). Maybe I should have attacked first?

Charles Matthews From the point of view of power, B5 must be at b (Hane at the Head of Two Stones).

Andre Engels Please use letters rather than coordinates for specifying points. N17 is B8, which is not a good move here. Locally B6 looks correct, white is just creating a weak group for herself. Globally, Charles is correct.

B7: Andre Engels Inconsistent. After not answering W4, black should do better not to answer W6 either. The black stone is very light now; black should have no more worries about giving it up than he has about giving up some empty point.

Moves 31 to 40

Moves 31 to 40  

B1: Orcun I don't know why I was happy about this situation but I was.

B3: Orcun She started to play for the middle slowly but I was not interested so much. This was not concentrated for both middle and side play. I think it did not do any good for me at all. One place lower the square seems better now.

Charles The two circled points are important now.

B5: Orcun I knew she was after the middle but I should defend my side.

Charles Better: either play a quietly, or connect under at the circled point.

B7: Orcun Again I was not sure so I played far away. Why B7? I thouht the fourth line was my winning line.

Andre Engels Good move.

How would you rate this position?

Charles Black has more serious weaknesses.

Andre Engels Agree; the greatest worry seems to be the lower right - you might well be shredded to pieces there.

B9: Orcun This may not seems good but it was a two purpose move. I wanted to attack on the squared white by p and I was jelaous about her influence on the middle.

Now I ask myself Why didn't I consider s? Maybe I was excited about my? idea of double ladder which goes like black starting p, white q, r. Then white should play x or y otherwise one black stone there would create a ladder. When white plays on one side, I should continue as if it was a ladder and in the end I would have two ladders. Now I can see where I am wrong!

Moves 41 to 50

Moves 41 to 50  

B3: Orcun I wanted to respond in a similar way but now I think 4 should be mine, as she teaches me next.

Andre Engels Agree. Both B3 and B4 make territory while connecting, but B4 connects the weakest group and is therefore better.

B5: Orcun I wanted to play B7 and B9 so I thought this be a good sacrifice (which is my style in chess).

Moves 51 to 54

Moves 51 to 54  

W4: Andre Engels Terrible move. What were those silicon cells thinking? So close to her own thickness this move hardly has effect on the game at all. Charles Sadly, even female computers are stubborn about accepting criticism.


What do you think about this situation?

Charles Black seems to be a little ahead; White should probably invade at a to fight.

Remember I am playing go for two days and gnuGO 3.2 is a product of four years :) How do you rate my strength for the time being? What about my learning curve?


Charles Try playing for two more days. Actually no life and death, endgame here so I can't judge your technical strength.

Orcun I could not load the game to continue. So I started a new one, which will be the second sample. I don't want to post all of my games but just two is ok I guess. It would also show my progress if any? :)

iopq: You don't know computers like I do... they are all about the end-game. They don't see beginning moves clearly because there are too many legal moves. The computer would crush you in the end-game though. I mean, you'd probably lose like half of your groups. It happened to me... damn that 12k computer strength

Beginner Game Sample 1 last edited by Dieter on January 13, 2012 - 17:23
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