44 Point Double Low Approach/ Discussion

The most common way  

(Sebastian:) The parent page says: B1 "is the most common way". How should Black respond to W2?

The most common way  

Alex Weldon: This is seen fairly often, at least in amateur games I've watched. It seems about even to me, considering that B played tenuki once. white+circle has aji. W might consider pulling out at a to get B b in response as a kind of probe to increase that aji. It also gains some credibility by being similar to a two-space high pincer joseki, in which W makes a second approach in response to the pincer (the sequence is the same, but with a pincer stone in place). W often exchanges W c for B d before playing W2, to increase the aji in that joseki (in which case B5 has to be at a to avoid damaging the pincer stone), but apparently that's just the traditional Japanese way; the Korean style is to omit the c/d exchange, as shown here (that last bit of information taken from a Go World article).

crux: I've done a search in GoGoD and found that Sebastian's original position is very rare (10 matches only). Normally, White plays the hane in response to the attachment, rather than invading the 3-3 point immediately. This move becomes slightly more common when there are additional black pincer stones on the top side. There's only one match for the continuation Alex suggests, so I assume it's considered too slow.

Building an interior wall  

(Sebastian:) Here's how we continued.[1] I don't think this was good. At least move 11 @ a was surely a mistake. After that, White tenukied.

Bill: Quick comment. The difference between B3 at B6 and W4 in the diagram is huge. Without reading I can almost guarantee that B3 should be at B6.

Alex Weldon: I agree with Bill. As for 11 at a, though... you have to protect the cut, so 11 at a is necessary, though painful. You also missed a good sequence with b, c, d, e.


(Sebastian:) Actually, it wasn't as bad as I thought. At a later time (move 58 in the game) I should have invaded at B1.

Alex Weldon: This shouldn't work. W6 is very, very wrong. It absolutely must be at a. This is a simple case of counting liberties.

[1] See [ext] http://files.gokgs.com/games/2004/11/6/Bashan-Malcome.sgf moves 16-28. Colors and orientation changed to fit this discussion.

44 Point Double Low Approach/ Discussion last edited by blubb on October 28, 2006 - 15:34
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