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Unkx80: Nakade and big eye. (2005-11-09 13:39) [#421]

Sorry for butting in at this stage of the WME.

On the nakade page: Nakade is a Japanese go term [...] which means big eye or center of the big eye. [...] Most generally, it can describe any move, including ones that might better be called placements, inside a singular enemy eyespace, [...]

On the big eye page: A big eye refers to an eye of at least four spaces in the context of capturing races. A big eye has more liberties inside the eye than the number of spaces.

From the pre-WME version of the nakade page, the following diagrams are listed as examples of nakade.

[Diagram]
Three points.  
[Diagram]
Semeai seki  



How do we explain the anomaly that the eye space is required to be at least four points, particularly the case of straight three and bent three?

(When I learnt go, I learnt that 大眼 refers to eyes that have two or more points. Since big eye is the most direct (word-to-word or phrasal) translation of 大眼, I always find it odd that Westerners require big eyes to have at least four points. And it makes explanation of concepts like nakade difficult.)

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Bill: Re: Nakade and big eye. (2005-11-09 17:15) [#424]

I have edited the big eye and small eye pages. I hope things are clearer there, now.

BobMyers: Re: Nakade and big eye. (2005-11-09 21:11) [#426]

Very sorry, I intended to place the new "nakade" content in a WME subpage but accidentally replaced the main page. You are absolutely right--as things stand they are horribly inconsistent. Could a senior deshi please revert the nakade content to where it was before the edits (version 124)? The entire WME will affect quite a few pages and I'll put them all in WME subpages until we're ready to go.

Unkx80: Re: Nakade and big eye. (2005-11-10 02:22) [#427]

I see... reverted. And thanks for the good work. =)

 
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