Its having some kind of distinguishing factor between each of the 'Shangdu' entries I'm after. Shangdu 1, Shangdu 2, etc. would be okay. Just don't want Shangdu 8 times, with no distinction. I'm not hung up on the particular phrase 'Shangdu' or think that the abbreviation 'cj' is the best. Just something better than nothing. For example, I added the Eba Hiroki stuff as heba because I didn't know any better. Clearly using his name is better, I just hadn't made that connection. I can't read chinese/japanese/korean. I don't know what the jgj is shorthand for, or many of the japanese words I've used, e.g. raku, sikatu, sou, tekijyou, tsuku, tsuyo, tukamoto. I'm hoping someone will come along later with a better grasp of japanese to fix things up. I have just done my best to keep things simple, ordered, and trying to avoid over-complication. This wiki-stuff seems to be a case of better to put something down, rather than have a blank page, then modify from there. And yes, its difficult to do it without stepping on peoples toes. Cooperation is always difficult, but I think we've got a better result in the end with multiple people contributing.