BQM 493
In my games I started to play Mokuhazushi (5-3 point)just to try it out. I had some success with it and would want to know more about it. While the most common aproach is the 3-4 point, once I encountered this and didn't quite know how to answer:
I thought that the two main alternatives are a and b but none of them really seems to punish since b pushes w along the fourth line (isn't that bad?) and a just seems to take 3rd line territory in exchange for a white wall on the 4th line
3-4 exchange seems forced, since I don't think continuing to push would be a good idea... and this exchange doesn't quite seem to punish w's shoulder hit
And couldn't W just tenuki after leaving the shoulder hit as a forcing move and treat it lightly (and maybe use it later)?
so, my question as a 5k (KGS) is, how to best answer/punish the shoulder hit on Mokuhazushi?
unkx80: My quick answers here. Please feel free to ask for an elaboration.
can cross-cut. No way White can get a good result here.
Looks to me like should be at
. ~srn347
unkx80: Probably. Then at
, the result don't seem too good for White either.
If tenuki,
can either tenuki or play the hane at
. This is a pretty solid corner with definite territory.
Andy: looks a little slack here though, so maybe tenuki is better?
Actually the above is a transposition of the 3-4 point corner enclosure with the and
exchange. This exchange is rarely good for White.
JoelR: This is an interesting discussion. I have some questions about the continuations given:
If Black plays for the side with , is
playable? Yes, it induces a shoulder hit, but White might get a big corner, and Black might need to protect against cuts.
MrTenuki: This position is bad for White according to the six-kyu noseki page, though.