Beginner Exercise 140 / Attempts

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[Diagram]
Black to play.  

Taw: How about this ?

Hikaru79: This ends up extremely bad for black. White lives with either two prisoners in gote or one prisoner in sente.

unkx80: To Hikaru79: Actually, this is the sequence I am expecting. But the order of moves is wrong in this diagram.


[Diagram]
Black to play.  

How about this?

unkx80: Both diagrams are wrong.


Malweth: My try

[Diagram]
White has Ko to live  

unkx80: Good try, but unfortunately B1, B5 and W6 are wrong moves.


ChrisSchack: Next try, I guess. Of course, your comment about move order is a dead giveaway...

[Diagram]
Black to play.  

This leads to ko, I think, and if B has enough threats. In place of W4, W can't simply connect at W1 as in the diagram below, else:

[Diagram]
Continued - connect  

and now it IS a ko for life. Therefore, W would have to play so as indicated in the next diagram, in place of W4 above.

[Diagram]
Continued - capture  

Which is quite the difference.


unkx80: Chris's solution is right, after I gave the hint and the comment. To being the discussion to a slightly higher level, I shall also mention the following in passing.

[Diagram]
Discussion.  

Without the black stone at a, W2 can extend and say arigato to Black for the free gift. Obviously White should not play W2 at b otherwise black can play at B2 and thank White instead.

[Diagram]
Discussion.  

On the other hand, with the marked stone, W2 is not good, as B3 starts a one step ko compared to a two step ko in the solution.

[Diagram]
Discussion.  

So without Black a, Black should atari at B1. The correct response is W2, irregardless whether there is a Black stone at a. I believe this is probably a IGS 1k* level indicator.


Beginner Exercise 140 / Attempts last edited by CharlesMatthews on November 2, 2003 - 20:31
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