Tapir: I tried in the game, since Black answered at a it worked out well... but after
,
doesn't look that good.
Herman Hiddema: This has some potential, although I think the best white may get is seki, and perhaps not even that.
Tapir: To my kyu eyes there is only one big eye. And I don't know what Black can do against white filling it up with dead shapes. ,
,
seems to be seki.
at
seems to live unconditionally, for white has to play inside now.
Dave: This looks like a better approach to me. With or without the exchange of for
, Black plays
and I do not see how White can make seki. Black has too many outside liberties.