# Shape Problem 1 / Solution

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Peep, atari, capture

Alex Weldon: I believe this is correct. White wants to capture to save her three stones, but to play immediately is poor style. The proverb is play kikashi before living, and this is the purpose of and . Either of them, if ignored by Black, would allow White to rescue her stones, while still having some intrinsic value if answered. Black is then essentially forced (at least from the local standpoint) to connect at and . Then White comes back to play .

Order of moves is very important. If White played before , would no longer be forcing, because also defends against ; Black could resist kikashi?. Also, as I said, White must play kikashi before living. After , the three White stones have already been saved, so it is less pressing for Black to answer the kikashi. If White lived with first, and then later tried to play or , there's a chance Black might just ignore the move, if plays elsewhere on the board are larger.

But if defends against as well, why doesn't black just play it instead of , to avoid double-kikashi?

Agilis: I'm just around 19k but perhaps it can go something like this? A trade, but who's better off?