What to do if your opponent fails to arrive / Discussion

• "In the main EGF tournament, the rules are that time to wait is one hour." Is that one hour on the clock (meaning 1 hour plus 15 minutes before the clock was started) or 1 hour total (45 minutes on the clock)? -- SGBailey 2003-09-28
  • My interpretation is that the player can claim the win after one hour in the tournament clock has passed. the referee can declare a loss by forfeit after one hour from the announced starting time has passed. -- Matti 2003-09-29

• What if the tournament rules specify nigiri to determine colours? Do you just start one clock and then adjust the time accordingly after the opponent arrives, or do you just take black? The latter was done at the EGC Weekend Tournament in 2003. -- 212.90.65.13 2003-09-29
  • If the times are identical for the two players, which is normal, then you can start the black's clock and when they arrive, do nigiri and if necessary turn the clock round. Need to work out how to get this into the page. -- SGBailey 2003-09-29
  • As it was a side event, propably a russian rule was used. If at the time of the start of a round a player is missing, the player present may choose the colour. -- Matti 2003-09-29

• I don't like that people define any additional delays. The default is, that a round starts when it is announced to start. The clocks should start at that time. In such a big tourament as a Go Congress the pairing should be posted on a wall at least 15 minutes before the round, preferable 30 minutes before. If it goes so, there is no reason for delay. On the other hand if the pairning is osted on the wall one minte before the start of the round ten it is unreasobnable to expect everyone to start on time. In tis case one might wait 15 minutes, before starint a clock. the 15 applies to a Go Congress only. In a 25 player tournaent 5 minutes shoud be enough for everyone to find his game. --Matti 2003-09-29

• SGBailey, you changed my last correction. Now people read it different way than preferred. When the round has started normally, but the opponenet is late, the clock should have been started immediately. In this case the default win can be claimed after 60 minutes. 15 minutes delay to start the clock should be an exception. From the text a player who tends to arrive late will get an impression that if he arrives 74 minutes late he can still play. -- Matti 2003-10-01
  • That was because I thought I was tidying up the English phrasing and I hadn't realised what you were trying to say. I (think that I) now understand and will change it accordingly. Please check the revised version. -- SGBailey2003-10-01

• A paragraph with both players being very late appeared. Referee will know what to do. Please don't assume, that I can keep correcting things as fast as they appear. --Matti 2003-10-20
  • The subject needed covering for completeness, I have now edited it to say that the referee will know what to do. I don't assume that you can correct things as fast as they appear, but things will appear from all sorts of folk that may not be "right", we just have to keep looking and correct as we can. -- SGBailey 2003-10-20
  • I see you have added a para suggesting that both players have their time reduced by the full lateness. That means that for a game with 2 hour limits, the standard duration is 4 hours. If both players are 1 hour late (and the game not forfeit) then they both get 1 hour for a 2 hour game starting 1 hour late or a 3 hour duration. Thus the late starting game will finish before the standard game. Is this what you were intending? -- SGBailey 2003-10-21
    • It is not a suggestion. It is a referees option. The consequence, but not intention, is that the game finishes earlier. -- Matti 2003-10-21
      • This is actually sensible and fair. It means if one player turns up after 30 minutes, he can set the clocks to 1:30 and start the other clock. 25 minutes later, when player 2 arrives his clock reads 1:05. -- SGBailey 2003-10-21
  • You have written: Allow full time limit play - preferred if the next round is not compromised by this. I don't see any reason why to prefer this one. It hjust encourages bad habits for the players. -- Matti 2003-10-22
    • OK, I'll alter it. -- SGBailey 2003-10-22