BQM 185
Chris Hayashida: I started with the Chinese Opening, and when White approached at
I pincered with
. White then played
and started the nadare when I answered at
.
Chris Hayashida: This is what happened in the game. It was a complete disaster. The post-mortem shows that
was a mistake, as the ladder starting at a is broken by the marked white stone.
The group with
and
ended up being a nakade, killing the group at the end of the game. Figures from kyu play, huh? :)
Chris Hayashida: So the question is, what should I do now? a doesn't seem to work. What about b or c? d seems to lose sente.
I need to end in sente, so that I can extend to e.
It seems like I can get a good result, as White's marked stone will be too close to his wall.
Bill:
I like the solid connection,
. It restricts White's options. As you point out,
is ill placed. You don't get sente, but after
you can treat
lightly and tenuki, I think. (Although
looks pretty good. ;-))
unkx80: Since you pincered with
after
is played, theoretically it is possible for White to play
. If you treat the series of moves after
as a series of Black-White-Black-White exchanges, then you should not expect to get sente to play at a. As one of my lecturers like to say, there is no free lunch.
Chris Hayashida: I didn't really think about it until White had already committed to the avalanche. If White pincers with
, Black might get 'b''. I can't tell who this favors, though. Is this bad for Black?
Chris Hayashida: I asked at the club, and one of the 7-dan there also mentioned that I could play a magic sword-ish joseki. I seem to remember that White traded a for b, but I'm not sure that it's necessary. I don't know this joseki well enough to know if
can be at c. This seems like it might be a good result for Black.
Bill: You mean hiki (d)? Charles Well, yes,
+
can be tsukehiki rather than tsukenobi.
But I think White went wrong earlier.
This looks like a time to play
and
, for light shape. The nadare when both the
stones are there - I don't think so.
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