BQM 519
Moved from 4-4 point low approach, two-space high pincer, without side stone.
How should Black answer
? (This used to be a joseki variation of the already unpopular catenaccio joseki.
seems to be overconcentrated
White doesn't get many points.
White a : Black plays b and cuts White. White lives in the corner in gote.
White b : White connects in gote.
AJP: better for white to connect at c instead.
Charles Black's tenuki after
I can believe.
Bill: I wonder about the Japanese 6-dan's comment. Maybe there was no
stone in the position discussed. It is urgent here to attack rather than be attacked, it seems to me.
Bill: (A little later.) I did a search on GoBase. White's 3-3 invasion has occurred in very few games, as you might have guessed. When it has, Kogo's variation is typical, but without
. (White plays tenuki instead.) Also, White often plays tenuki after
.
unkx80: A likely reason why this "joseki" is rarely played out is because the one-space jump followed by the 3-3 invasion is not really following the flow in most cases - the feeling is that White wants to make moves both outside and inside the corner, which appears somewhat greedy. (Compared to the usual joseki where White directly enters the 3-3, White sacrifices the outside for a fairly large corner.) This results in a smaller corner, while the outside stones are somewhat heavy and subject to attack.
unkx80: If you must play on the left side, then
is a much thicker reply. a is way too thin.
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I can believe.
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