OD1P - July 31 Problem / Discussion
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Only a ko
jvt: Black 1 looks good but it is only a ko.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/39/185fe244f787ac8e811ae4649f24e2e8.png)
If White 2 elsewhere...
Black 3 occupies the important point and kills.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/30/e0e5d6190944e7d4aa6cb5bb1f267c10.png)
Continued
If White captures at 8, Black creates a false eye at 9.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/16/d16e47cbd06b9bf52d28f2206b3e88fd.png)
Variation
White stones get captured in snapback on the left.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/22/9c310a39d6b1b9b72d3db22b5641de91.png)
Black's next move?
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Continued 1: (ko)
6 at 2.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/50/d091d0c3d92e7ea57905b0c515d18bef.png)
Continued 2: (Black 1 kills)
jvt: White can't get a ko like this.
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Mr.jvt:Why don't B 2?
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Answer
DieterVerhofstadt (1k): White will eventually have to play at a and capture at b. Her eye space then consists of three in a row. That's a dead shape, since Black can throw in again at 1. --(exchanged b/w RogerHale?)
kind: for some reason i just can't believe white is killed. Looks more like a ko to me when black goes 1.
not sure though correct me if i am wrong
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/30/725a2b5603900a48d41d5f8a1e7d9f8b.png)
hmm how bout
now it is ko.
if black do something else
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/9/0b5baf6b303dc88139b28d6363699317.png)
hmm how bout
alive
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hmm how bout
same ko
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/15/fb9eba7d66b175a27eeecbef0d791798.png)
hmm how bout
or
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/47/fd3653fb8cca79dfcfbb505f77e924d6.png)
hmm how bout
so it seems like ko to me if black go 1 to begin with ?_?