3-5 point Josekis
This gives an overview of 3-5 point Josekis that have a page (or several pages) on Sensei's Library.
For each joseki a standard sequence is given (this is one of the more common ones, but need not be the absolutely most common one), and an overview of pages dealing with that joseki and its variations.
Low approach
- 3-5 point low approach, i.e. 3-5 point 4-3 approach
- Low approach to 3-5 point asks statistical questions.
- 3-5 point low approach, press and Press
- This variation (
here): Pushing battles in joseki 5
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tenuki: 3-5 point low approach, press, tenuki variations
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at a, black
, white tenuki: 3-5 point low approach, press, tenuki variations
xela: Is this diagram correct? Shouldn't be at
?
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prepare the nice black move of
.
- W can choice between a to save the two stones or b to get a ponnuki
Bob McGuigan: That's the joseki move in my references. It seems that
versus
is a loss for White but it avoids some very complicated variations.
- 3-5 Point Low Approach One Space Low Pincer
- This variation (
here): Pushing battles in joseki 6
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at a: Don't Peep at Bamboo Joints
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tenuki: 3-5 point low approach one-space low pincer, tenuki
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at b: see compromised diagonal and dropping back
- Taisha Joseki
- This variation: see below
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elsewhere: Ways To Avoid The Taisha
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at 5: BQM 13
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tenuki: Taisha, tenuki variations
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at 8: Ways To Avoid The Taisha, Net versus ladder
3-3 invasion/approach
Is above correct? 38 Basic Joseki gives this:
38 Basic Joseki gives this followup line, but Kogos Joseki Dictionary calls an error in move order.
Herman: Ishida agrees with Kogo's, and says that white should make the -
exchange before the
-
exchange.
Kogo gives this refutation with the the comment that with cutting points at both , white is in trouble here. Of course, sometimes Kogo's analysis verges upon the hyperbolic...
Herman: Ishida gives the exact same refutation diagram Kogo's gives (much of Kogo's is taken from Ishida). However...
Herman: Of the 52 games I have on record with this position, white next plays a 25 times and b 22 times, so a is in fact the most popular pro play in this position.
Herman: Of the 25 games where white plays , black next plays a 17 times, b 6 times, and c 2 times. Apparently, there is more to this position than meets the eye.
Herman: And finally, of the 6 games where black responds to with
, each of the continuations a, b and c is equally popular, with 2 occurences in pro play (of course, 6 games is too small a sample to draw really meaningful conclusions about that)