KGS Wishlist

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The following are features and requests KGS users hope can one day be implemented in the server or client software (KGS or CGoban2).

If you are a first time user:

If you just used KGS for the first time, this page may be quite confusing to you. Your experience, however, is very valuable and you can help improve KGS by adding it to KGS First Time User Experience.

If you have used KGS already and have a wish:

Please enter your wish at the bottom of the appropriate section. Check thoroughly if the feature isn't already there. If you miss something rather obviously needed, better ask people at KGS first instead of adding a wish here.

If you found a bug:

To point out a bug instead of a wish, go to KGS Bugs.

If you want a look in the future:

To see exactly what wms is working on right now, you can look at the KGS Status page.

wms: If I like an idea enough to decide that I will definitely implement it eventually (or if it is implemented already!), I will erase the entry here and add an entry to the status or plans page. So if I delete your entry, don't be mad! Just check those pages, it probably means that I really liked your idea. I will never remove an idea here because I do not like it.

UPDATE: I have moved my plans to a private bugzilla database. I may someday make that database available for reading, but for now, I don't have a public future plans list.

Wishes that definitely will not be done will be moved to KGSWishlist/Rejected. Items added which are already there will be deleted immedately.

Solutions and work-arounds for difficulties and problems:

There is a page Cgoban problems and solutions (and collection of problems still without workaround) (not a bug page, not a wish list).


Table of Contents

[00] Summary / Most Wanted
[1] Social
[11] Logging In
[12] General User Handling
[13] Chat handling/room use
[14] Handling Nasties
[15] Design Discussion: Should Games be arranged by Chat?
[16] New User's First Login
[17] Privacy
[18] Management
[2] Game Handling
[21] General Game Stuff
[22] Editing
[23] Score Estimator
[24] Rule Systems
[25] Time Systems
[26] Ratings
[27] Game Start
[28] Game End
[3] File Handling/Database Use
[31] User Info
[32] Game info
[33] Game File Format and Saving
(KGS Issue) Kogo's Joseki Dictionary
[4] General UI and Design Issues
[41] Keyboard accelerators/shortcuts/hotkeys
[42] Sort "Active Games"
[5] KGS Plus
[51] Lecture reviewing
[52] See old lectures (for a fee)
[7] KGS Web Pages
[8] Technical/Other/Dunnos
[81] Development Fundamentals
[82] Connection and Responsiveness
[83] Other Technical Issues
[9] kgsGtp and Bot Access to KGS
[10] Security

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Currently, the entire KGS Wishlist is about to get restructured. You're more than welcome to contribute your ideas. See the ongoing discussion for details, and KGS Wishlist2 for what it's going to be.

Can anyone honestly say that they're still working on the restrucring? It's been many months, maybe even a year or more since I first saw the restrucure message and so far the wishlist2 page hasn't changed.

What's the relevancy of this page now that Cgoban3 is out? Can someone compare the wishlist to changes implemented in cgoban3?


Slade: I suggest the ability to right click on a game in a game listing and select the new option "Open Locally". This would copy the game to your system using a temporary file to store the sgf and then cgoban would load up the file. This way you can do a one-click load of a game to review without having to host it online or going through the kgs archives.


Anonymous:DEBUG KGS3 is most URGENT. No need of new features (in 3.0.9) when imporant bugs are known since beginning of 3.0. Or is it needed to full up admins mail with bug report ?

Anonymous: please add some learning accosories at the server like in dashn where you can solve problems without needing to upload them


ridiculous?: how it is posible to set byo time 30sec/60moves? 2s on move make posibility to make many hight level account only by winning on time!!! Shouldn't be some 5s/move limit to RATED games?!


Please add one-color-go

Anonymous: Yeah that would be cool! Or three player Go. meuns?: I agree ! This is really interesting for training.


 It would be great if in the window of ongoing games
 There could be a column telling "how fast" the games are
 So I can decide if I want to watch a blitz game or a slow one
 Now I have to open the game to see

fujichan? I suggest to put the personals statistics with:

            ♦Games win:
             -by points:x
             -by resign:x
             -by time:x
            ♦Games lose: x
             -by points:x
             -by resign:x
             -by time:x
            ♦Games unfinished:x

I suggest put it between "games" and "graphic"


meh: I'd like a page somewhere with the status of the server where you can go when you're having trouble logging in. Something that says "Server Status: Down" or whatever, and maybe an estimate as to how long it will take to correct the problem if it's going to be down for an extended period of time. That way, at least, you can tell whether it's on your end or not - sometimes when the server's down, the error notice doesn't come up at all for me. Maybe just put it on the main KGS website. +


Jontarou?: I would prefer using the textured stones in KGS, but I find that it is too difficult to distinguish easily between the white and black stones. I wonder if it might be beneficial to lessen the glare on the black stones (and possibly darken them a bit) and lighten the patterns on the white stones. This is, of course, my personal opinion, but I suspect that others might feel the same way, so I thought that I'd at least suggest it and I think doing this would improve the visual appearance of the board. (Another option might be making the stones' appearance manually adjustable.)


don: I suggest to create a test of like 10 question to see if they have read the conditions for the chat and the faq, especially the section about escapers. And they will all know that hotmail emails might not work.


flip: I would really love a shortcut eg Ctrl-U to pickup a users information. Ctrl-N and Ctrl-Q are there so this can't be hard to implement and would be really great for those of us who hate switching between mouse and keyboard.


Gzperi?: I wonder if it's possible to add the option "play monochromatic game". This should be funny to play such games on KGS. Some more shortcuts would be very welcome yes. Improve the anti escaping system : A person who leaves a game has 1 month to finish it else he is declared as looser (or, in case his opponent is not online, to play a move in it) then the website will be able to see what games are really posponned, and what are just forgotten escaped games.this can be good

Hydro47? Four Color Go would be a great add to the server, by this, 4 people for themselves in one go match.


kirkmc? I would like to see the time display a different color. I don't have very good eyesight, and red on black is about the hardest thing to see. I've made mistakes seeing, say, 3s as 8s when looking at the time. Can you change it to yellow or green, which are much easier to see, or change the background from black; or make the clock color a user preference?

tar88z? there is too many escapers that the system dont handel well at all, its happen to me alot, and i fear that im not the only one. some of them are smart and know when ther close to become a chronic escaper, this way they can escape 10 game in 6 mounth, that alot and very annoying, I thouth about it alot and i think i have the perfect solution:

I suggest that if someone left unfinished game, and if the game is after 100 turns, then if the person who left dont comeback after 5 minute he will loss the game but only if the other player stay in the game for all the 5 minutes.

 that way if u have an internet problem or the computer reset its not a problem and u can come back to the game,

its the perfet system against escaper who truly starting to piss me off. plz give this one a thinking time and i m sure u will agree with me.

thanks. and sorry for all the English mistakes, not my mother languange.

rottenhat? It would be good if the list of saved lectures for KGS Plus Users could be sorted by lecturer rather than by date only.


yzhh? I suggest adding a search field on top of players list. When you type part of a player's name there, those whose name contains what you typed remain in the list, others get filtered out. This is good for:

 - finding a player whose name you don't remember quite well
 - getting a player's information faster than "user -> user info".

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Toyo? I propose we have 3-4 people playing together at the same time using any color in the color spectrum.t is normal go, but 4 people are just playing at the same time. It is scored the same and everything. PLease consider my idea.

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Groudon I think usernames should be allowed to be 1-20 characters instead of 1-10. Plz consider making it 1-20 characters.

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mathso? It would be nice if one could select the board size in the auto-match settings dialog.

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SudenDeath? small request... a volume control option

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I was wondering if you ever considered doing something similar to what OGS ([ext] http://www.online-go.com/index.php) does and start yearly title tournaments? The current tournaments are fun but maybe there would be more interest if titles could be awarded? Additional icons could be created, unique ones for the current title holder, and they could defend it the following year. If they don't appear to be active in the community anymore the next year the title could be vacated and a tournament to decide the next one could take place instead.

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Archaic?--kgs member,

kgs graphics/themes for board and stones concepts:

this may be the main theme: you will have a perfect rectanglish, purplish/red full of life spiral of the milky way as the background for the board...with the japanese or chinese character for COSMOS on there (chinese is qian kun, or kun i think), for the lines you will have transparent whitish-grey (resembling dust in the universe), because the background will be mostly space or black, for the stones you will have burgundy special jewel color from nepal someone, actually the best would be just red not red/purple rubies, said he can't remember the name red yunzi stone with the white powder on top is a good idea too(red symbolizing the passionate flame of the universe, with the character RESOLUTION on it the japanese are into the word RESOLVE someone told me and have many forms of it someone had a word of resolve on their fan in hikaru no go) and for the other color stone you will have oriental turqoise or jade (jade is better oriental turqoise is a little bit too intricate and fake) (a profound green color) (it's a special pattern with dark green and mostly light green shades with a hint of pink sort of like fake jade) (and the character for profound will be on there)

my favorite one: transparent/glassy/glossy/or ordinary blue (you can do this but i wouldn't suggest it leave it plain: use the asian character for technical, technique, professionalism, concentration, or space-kong), you might want to have technical for the board and technique for the white lines) board with white lines with black and white stones (with a little glare/shine in the corner) (like in the hikaru no go flash scenes where he slams a stone down with yellow light emitting--it's best to leave it plain but perhaps we can do this as an option except perhaps with white light? :D, btw this theme is my personal favorite as it fits my personality), this would be a technically stylized board)

you don't have to use any characters obviously which is probably better, but just in case it can be set as an option...you can have green(grass-cao) and blue (river-he or water-shui) stones on a wooden (wood-mu) board, and also transparent blue(river or sky)/green (mountain-shan/grass/valley), for both blue and green together probably forest or valley board and white lines, with green and blue stones--finally, for a picture of a valley in the background you will use no characters at all, and just have green and blue stones with a nice empty picture of a huge valley in the background, for a picture of a chinese mountain painting (with clouds/villages/steps/oriental trees/old man carrying buckets of water or maybe if u can find someone playing go or females in traditional uniform playing the flute/bridges/details) use no characters either, and just use black and white stones

characters that i've described above including yun (cloud), he (river), shi (stone) (for the black stones), mountain (shan, don't know the character for valley) (for the jade stones), wind (feng, for white stones, don't know the character for air), tian (sky), fire (for the mahogany board, don't know the character for flame, don't know the word for passion), and, if someone needs me to write out the character for them i can easily look it up but i'm not sure if senseis supports it and i'm too tired atm so i'm skimpin'

and to round it all out you can just switch the ordinary board background into a mahogany colored board nice and deepset (or allow us to do personal engravings on the board and say write words or put our signature on the bottom of the board to personalize our board), fire and water, ice/water, air/wind with a picture of the sky filled with clouds, or flame/ice graphics which i really won't go into since it's so lame.

having animated graphics (for fire and water) like on flyordie.com might be a little bit of a server overload and if any of these things prove to be too hefty you could always opt for the simpler designs and get rid of the more consuming ones, plus you can always just apply this function: only active games can have the theme on them, once the games go into the archive then they are stored using the ordinary theme this way only active games would actually be consuming...or have a limit as to how many themed windows each user can have open at once


This is a copy of the living page "KGS Wishlist" at Sensei's Library.
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