4-4 point Josekis

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This gives an overview of 4-4 point joseki that have a page (or several pages) on Sensei's Library.

For each joseki, here or at the linked page a standard sequence is given (this is one of the more common ones, but need not be the absolutely most common one), and an overview of pages dealing with that joseki and its variations.

Black may get to play another stone in this corner before White does. See 4-4 point enclosure josekis.

Table of contents Table of diagrams
Low approach
High approach common joseki
Alternative
Distant high approach
Distant low approach
distant low approach fuseki
3-3 point invasion
Very low approach
Shoulderhit
3-4 point attachment
other side attachment


Low approach

A linked play may not be joseki. See also 4-4 point low approach statistics.

4-4 point low approach footsweep 4-4 point diagonal attachment joseki 4-4 point low approach one-space low pincer 4-4 point low approach two-space low pincer 4-4 point low approach three-space low pincer Pseudo-Pincer 4-4 point low approach attach BQM41 4-4 point low approach one-space high pincer 4-4 point low approach two-space high pincer 4-4 point low approach three-space high pincer 4-4 point low approach kosumi 4-4 point low approach knight's move cap 4-4 point low approach low extension 4-4 point low approach high extension 4-4 point low approach large low extension 4-4 point low approach large high extension 4-4 point low approach tenuki
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Low approach



See also: 4-4 point low approach after wedge


High approach

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High approach common joseki

The response at B2 is by far the most common response, and the sequence up to W5 is a reasonable continuation. White next moves up at a or extends to b, c or d depending on circumstances.

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Alternative

Pincering with b or c is also possible, as are other extensions like d or e.


Distant high approach

4-4 point distant high approach two space low pincer 4-4 point distant high approach one space high extension
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Distant high approach

At a: 4-4 point distant high approach one space high extension

At b: 4-4 point distant high approach two space low pincer

General discussion: 4-4 point distant high approach


Distant low approach

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Distant low approach

Fwiffo: I get this approach to my hoshi stone now and again, mainly by mid-teen kyus. I assume W1 is not exactly a great move since I don't see it played by higher level players and I don't see any sort of reference to it here. I don't feel a particularly urgent need to do much about W1 so I tenuki as often as not... If I do respond immediately, it will usually be an extension in the vicinity of a or a pincer somewhere around b. Are there joskei for this approach?

Bill: Yes, there are joseki for it. The usual replies are the kosumi at c and the large knight's response (one of the as).

Fwiffo: Thank you. I did a search for this position on gobase.org and it does indeed seem to be somewhat uncommon in pro play. W1 seems to be most often in invasion of the side when black has a position established in the upper right, moreso than an approach to the corner. In the cases where it does look like an approach, black usually has some thickness in the upper right facing this direction. In either case, the point appears to be to prevent a black play in the same area. The most common reply does appear to be c, sometimes followed by white around d then black a. Sometimes white would make a second approach around a instead of d.

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distant low approach fuseki

Common when white wedges on the side and wants a safe base with W3 rather than the more aggressive move at a.


Other moves

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3-3 point invasion

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Very low approach

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Shoulderhit

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3-4 point attachment

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other side attachment

iopq: Played by Cho Chikun against Takemiya Masaki with colors reversed. Both follow the proverb extend from a crosscut.


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