OD1P - July 31 Problem / Discussion
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Only a ko
jvt: Black 1 looks good but it is only a ko.
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If White 2 elsewhere...
Black 3 occupies the important point and kills.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/17/c589b8aa183176ab64af0bb7735cdf7e.png)
Continued
If White captures at 8, Black creates a false eye at 9.
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Variation
White stones get captured in snapback on the left.
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Black's next move?
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Continued 1: (ko)
6 at 2.
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Continued 2: (Black 1 kills)
jvt: White can't get a ko like this.
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Mr.jvt:Why don't B 2?
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Answer
DieterVerhofstadt (1k): White will eventually have to play at a and capture at b. Her eye space then consists of three in a row. That's a dead shape, since Black can throw in again at 1. --(exchanged b/w RogerHale?)
kind: for some reason i just can't believe white is killed. Looks more like a ko to me when black goes 1.
not sure though correct me if i am wrong
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hmm how bout
now it is ko.
if black do something else
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hmm how bout
alive
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hmm how bout
same ko
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/50/3df4ee55d5b1d10e3107ca6728ee6e3a.png)
hmm how bout
or
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/52/56cfa0844d4b1cb3ce452da0dfbff928.png)
hmm how bout
so it seems like ko to me if black go 1 to begin with ?_?