Rank - worldwide comparison
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Table of equivalences between ranking systems
Universally valid ranks do not exist; this is a table of approximate rank equivalences.
Please edit it if you have more accurate information than currently presented.
The table starts with beginners and ends with amateur experts.
Go Associations | Go Servers ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cyber AGA CHINA EUROPE JAPAN KOREA | Oro IGS DGS KGS --- ----- ------ ----- ----- | --- --- --- --- 26K 30K 28K 25K 32Gup | BC 25K 29K 27K 24K 31Gup | BC 24K 28K 26K 23K 30Gup | BC 23K 27K 25K 22K 29Gup | BC 25K 22K 26K 24K 21K 28Gup | BC 24K 21K 25K 23K 20K 27Gup | 22K 23K 15K 20K 24K 22K 19K 26Gup | 22K 22K 15K 19K 23K 21K 18K 25Gup | 21K 21K 14K 18K 22K 20K 17K 24Gup | 21K 20K 13K 17K 21K 19K 16K 23Gup | 20K 19K 13K 16K 20K 18K 15K 22Gup | 20K 18K 12K 15K 19K 17K 14K 21Gup | 19K 17K 12K 14K 18K 16K 13K 20Gup | 18K 16K 11K 13K 17K 15K 12K 19Gup | 17K 15K 11K 12K 16K 14K 11K 18Gup | 16K 14K 10K 12K 15K 14K 11K 18Gup | 15K 14K 10K 11K 14K 13K 10K 17Gup | 14K 13K 9K 10K 13K 12K 9K 16Gup | 13K 12K 9K 9K 12K 11K 8K 15Gup | 12K 11K 9K 8K 11K 10K 7K 14Gup | 10K 10K 9K 7K 10K 9K 6K 13Gup | 9K 9K 8K 6K 9K 8K 5K 12Gup | 8K 8K 7K 5K 8K 7K 4K 11Gup | 7K 7K 6K 4K 7K 6K 3K 10Gup | 6K 6K 5K 3K 6K 5K 2K 9Gup | 5K 5K 4K 2K 5K 4K 1K 8Gup | 4K 4K 3K 1K 4K 3K *1D 7Gup | 3K 3K 2K *1D 3K 2K 2D 6Gup | 2k 2K 2K 1K 2D 2K 1K 3D 5Gup | 1K 1K *1D 3D 1K *1D 4D 4Gup | *1D *1D 2D 4D *1D 2D 4-5D 3Gup | 2D 2D 3D 5D 2D 3D 5-6D 2Gup | 3D 3D 4D 6D 3D 4D 6-7D 1Gup | 4D 4D 5D 7D 5D | 6D 8D 6D | 7D 9D 7D | 8D 10D 8D | 9D
Disclaimer
Although it is stated above, this does perhaps bear repeating: this table is at best approximate, personal counterexamples abound (see /discussion) and rightly so. The national ranks are arguably likely to be more comparable - they are computed on the grounds of games of a standardised nature, with players in broadly comparable environs; this is markedly not the case on the servers. Where one AGA 4 kyu may play online in an internet cafe, another might have his/her kids running around, the TV on and dinner burning on the stove as they play, or anywhere else for that matter. Perhaps this table should simply remind us:
- Ranks are a great advantage of go in allowing decent games between players of different strengths but that is all, and they can become a great distraction
- Don't take absolute ranks too seriously.
- Be prepared to judge handicaps more by the evidence of games and less what the ranks say.
Rating Methods
- AGA - ratings information at
AGA rating information
- China - there is no known link, if you know of one, please add it
- Japan - here is some Tokyo ranking scheme
- Europe - grades vary by country, see
http://gemma.ujf.cas.cz/~cieply/GO/rgdrep.html. for a comparison of ratings with GoR. Comparisons of GoR do not take into account isolated player populations.
- CyberOro - Check out the
What is rating, RP?
- IGS - B C, beginners class, is used for players below 22k and guest logins. see the
IGS-PandaNet rating system for more information
- DGS - Link to the
Dragon rating system
- KGS - Here are the
Details of the KGS Rank System.
More Ratings Links
- A European 7D grade is believed to be approx equivalent to a professional 1D grade.
- See also rank - first comments and rank worldwide discussion.
- Is the below DGS "convert" link now dead? Should it be removed?
- GoFederation?: You may find your real EGF rank after solving this test:
http://play.baduk.org/
A test for "the real EGF" will only foster another table:
EGF (age) | KGS | IGS | Dinerchtein test ----------------- | ----- | ----- | ----------- 5 kyu (3 months) | 2 kyu | n/a | 4 dan 11 kyu (3 months) | 7 kyu | n/a | 3 kyu n/a | 1 kyu | n/a | 4 dan n/a | n/a | 5 kyu | 3 dan n/a | n/a | 11kyu | 1 dan?! 1 kyu (1 month) | 1 dan | n/a | 4 kyu
An ego booster. :) (Nicks/names left out to discourage any bragging-factor. "Age" is time since last tournament.)
unkx80: I tried it too. Was told that I am European 5 dan. Like, wow, so overrated. The biggest problem is that it is MCQ. If it is not MCQ I might never thought of some of the choices.
Anyway, I hope that he releases his answers (together with the reasoning) later so that it can be valuable study material.
Phelan: I've already posted this at the CoffeeMachine, but thought this was an appropriate place as well: I saw a post on rec.games.go which I assume was by breakfast, saying that he will explain the test problems in http://play.baduk.org/, this sunday, Jan 28 at 6pm GMT (21.00 Moscow time) on KGS (English Game Room).
Reflame I think there is an easy way to fix the differences among ratins systems - why do associations not do it this way?
Discussion
You will find a ton of chatter at the Discussion page.