4-4 point low approach one-space low pincer, attach and crosscut
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Starting Position
This page will discuss black's responses to . To see how this position emerged, please visit 4-4 point low approach one-space low pincer#1.
Joseki options
Here are some options black might consider, please add any analysis you find relevant below
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Joseki option A
antic: This variation seems the most plausible for me. After , black will either atari at a or descend at b, depending on how white plays.
If white , then black must descend at
.
antic: The question I have is then, does black have to play a, or can he descend at b in sente?
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Joseki option B
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Joseki option C
The most common joseki is to play this sequence. Black first forces with two atari's and then plays . This threatens to capture at
, so white defends by playing
. White can play a first, but when black responds at b, white must play
after all. White can play this to create a cutting point though.
threatens to capture again, so white must play
, after which black plays
to defend the cutting point.
Since white's corner is more enclosed than it would be if white had origininaly invaded at 3-3, this isn't played much.
Bill: Most common? Joseki? Sez who? Evidence, please.
antic: Yeah, I find these assertions dubious, at best.
eisit: Yes this is not joseki, it's good for black. But the white hane in the beginning was a trick move, so it is normal for black to get a good result if he plays correctly.
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Joseki option D
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