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Black plays at 1 to win?
unkx80: I don't think so.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/32/51a8af7bb4c2a3fc13f7b65d530e9830.png)
Black plays at 1 to win?
turns the position into seki and hence it is a draw.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/38/cfff2bfc88d8aa83880037e16203ec5f.png)
is Pass.
If white tries to keep symetry and hope for jigo, black plays a game-winning manego breaker at
. White can't mirror it due to shortage of liberties, and A-1 is stupid.
is Pass,
gets Black two beautiful eyes.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/44/44ee43536385d90d63b1eebbc745d059.png)
is Pass.
If instead White tries to capture, Black plays
and prevents white from making eyes. Again White has nothing, so she Passes, and
makes life for Black again.
Gul: white to play and win! (japanese rules)
black 3 dead
white 2 dead
hence white wins (no komi i presume:))
White to play and win! (japanese rules, no komi)
Mef: I'm pretty sure
wins here.
If black tries to prevent white from getting an eye, he is stuck with a losing ko.
white can foil any attempt by black to make an eye, after that it's a simple Me Ari Me Nashi.
After
black suffers from a liberty shortage.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/11/bea08aa578d2453cd1c85bee6c513780.png)
failure
If White tries to keep the symmetry from the start, Black can break it and win.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/48/4322f5acd128a5ae475421225dead9b8.png)
success
With an eye, White can now mirror for a draw.
-- The Count
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/2/b2c68847ebfc9fb22d7a644872c23bd4.png)
Version 1
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/29/e5c002832270cf5831096f74cba49399.png)
Version 2
Alex: In version 1, White throws in at the marked stone and Black recaptures, leading to a seki, but Black still wins, with 3 prisoners to 2.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/20/d54709a8215d01e5599574c6d746afe4.png)
Black Wins
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/10/46b1389e9548a6b74ecb2e80ffe180bb.png)
Black Wins
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/22/4dc60eab92fdb9a83b4159b15bf5d7d2.png)
Seki (Failure)
P7A77: Are these correct?