4-4 point low approach one-space low pincer, attach and crosscut

   

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Crosscut
Black's options
Atari then extend
Atari then extend
Atari then extend
Atari underneath
Atari on the outside
Extend towards the top
Extend towards the left

Starting Position

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Crosscut


This page will discuss black's responses to W1. To see how this position emerged, please visit 4-4 point low approach one-space low pincer#1.


Joseki options

Here are some options black might consider, please add any analysis you find relevant below

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Black's options


[1]

Joseki option A

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Atari then extend


antic: This variation seems the most plausible for me. After B3, black will either atari at a or descend at b, depending on how white plays.

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Atari then extend


If white W1, then black must descend at B2.


antic: The question I have is then, does black have to play a, or can he descend at b in sente?

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Atari then extend


If white W1, then black must capture WC with B2.


antic: Does anyone think a is better here, instead of B2?


[2]

Joseki option B

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Atari underneath


[3]

Joseki option C

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Atari on the outside

The most common joseki is to play this sequence. Black first forces with two atari's and then plays B5. This threatens to capture at W6, so white defends by playing W6. White can play a first, but when black responds at b, white must play W6 after all. White can play this to create a cutting point though. B7 threatens to capture again, so white must play W8, after which black plays B9 to defend the cutting point.

Since white's corner is more enclosed than it would be if white had origininaly invaded at 3-3, this isn't played much.

Bill: Most common? Joseki? Sez who? Evidence, please.


antic: Yeah, I find these assertions dubious, at best.


eisit: Yes this is not joseki, it's good for black. But the white hane in the beginning was a trick move, so it is normal for black to get a good result if he plays correctly.


[4]

Joseki option D

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Extend towards the top


[5]

Joseki option E

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Extend towards the left


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