The 3-3 Trap
Can white live unconditionally? If not, this can be the same as inviting the 3-3 invasion except it's better for black, because white gets very little territory, and is shut in to the corner. Black gets influence and thickness.
Someone better than I am, please explain why white can/cannot live in the corner.
I completely fail to understand this line. Pashley
Why on earth would Black play 1 here? There are plenty of better moves including 3.
With the Black moves in the other order, then I'm not at all sure 2 is good for White, and a or b look better than 3 for Black. After those, I think White is dead. At best he will get a small live group in exchange for a lot of influence.
Here's some idea's:
Joonas Tyystjarvi: Well, if the point was just to kill white's 2-2 stone, I think this works:
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captures, 11 connects, 12 at a). Playing
at
doesn't change the result.
Arno: of course this does not capture the 2-2 stone :-) White will play as follows (aim: saving at all costs):
White plays and there is no stopping it. Reminds me of a different problem.
Crimson : The Idea is to get white trapped in the corner, alive or dead, while getting influence and thickness for yourself.
Notochord : ...Which should be pretty easy, considering that White made a play on the 2-2 point as his first move in the corner. White should still undoubtedly be better off for the exchange of 1 for 2, though. If Black had played 3-3 as his first move, then on 2-2, Black would be crazy to then play on the 1-1.
I'm also a bit confused as to whether you intend this to be a trap that W could theoretically fall for. I don't think that there's much natural inclination at all for W to make the mistake of 2, unless he thinks that a weak, low, slow move is properly punished by a weak, low, slow move.
Crimson : As I said, this is some kind of trick play. White would see a play at 1-1 awfully suspicious and unexpected, because it can be captured in a net at 2-2. This should make black strong in that corner, and now it is hard to attack. Especially if the sequence ends in sente for black, he could get another two corners and leave white with only one. If it ends in gote for black, he already has influence and can attack a neighbouring white corner.