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2007 April 12

Anyone: in DragonTourney2008, a question has popped up on the use of SL to track (online) tournament results.

2007 April 4

RBerenguel: Hi, we are planning a 9x9 tournament with several rounds, but without league or round-robin length. What are your suggestions as a pairing system? It may be noted that although we could get 19x19 ratings from the players (or from almost all of them), they may be less than accurate on a small board. Thank you all in advance.

Harleqin: Do you want to use handicap? How many players do you have, and how are the ranks distributed? If the players are close enough (your guess), you can just play even games and Swiss Pairing. If the players' ranks are very different, perhaps MacMahon pairing is applicable with e.g. starting scores 1 point per 6 ranks, or you could use Swiss Pairing with handicap (see Handicap For Smaller Board Sizes).

RBerenguel: It's only in preparation stage, but we hope to have from 20kyu to 2 or 3 dan (maybe more). And we thought of playing without handicap, maybe McMahon would be best.

2007 March 4

Viciousman: I noticed that sites talking about Russian Go players are putting the player's names in "alphabetical order format" (I.e. Smith, John), but in Russian. That means that sometimes the Russian names are in the wrong order on the site. See, Russian names begin with the given name, end with a family name, and have a patrynomic in the middle.

I.E. Ilja Shikshin's patrynomic is Valerievich (Google search "Валерьевич" with "Valerievich" and you will know what I mean), as his dad's name is Valery.

Svetlana Shikshina has the patrynomic "Valerievna" - Oh, and family names have female forms - i.e. the "Shikshina."

Phelan: I think both Svetlana and Ilja have created and/or edited those pages a few times, so it seems weird that they have written their names wrong...

Viciousman: If they actually go on this site and edit the entries, I would love to ask them why the names were put in alphabetical order format. As for how I figured out which name was which and in which order: Google Translator from Russian to English.

Phelan: If you look at the page history for both those pages you'll see edits by redrose and roln111. I'm not sure how often they come here, or what pages they read. That's all I can say about this, since I don't speak/know Russian, and don't trust automatic translators just yet. Oh, and thanks for mentioning Google Translator, I wasn't aware of that project yet.

2007 February 22

Viciousman: Hi! I have questions about the Hanyu Pinyin tones of Ing Chang-Ki. I know that the first two characters are yìng (ying4) and chāng (chang1). But Wiktionary gives two possible results for the "Ki": Is it qī (qi1) or qí (qi2)?

Yìng Chāngqī to my knowledge (tderz)

ViciousMan: Thank you, tderz :)

2007 February 21

LipidBilayer?: Anyone have any preferences in the types of stones? Im making my own goban and Im just wondering which type of stones are popular and of good quality..

Tamsin: Hi, good luck with your goban. I made my own a few years ago, and it still gives me a lot of pleasure. Anway, in answer to your question: slate and shell stones are the best ones, but they can be very expensive for a good set. Glass stones? are quite cheap, but a decent set looks attractive and has a satisfying heft to it. I have glass stones, and I am very satisfied with them. There is also the option of yunzi stones, but I've never seen them. Avoid plastic stones: they're only for amateur tournaments and clubs, where materials need to be cheap, plentiful, and robust. Plastic stones look cheap, and they feel insubstantial. That said, Ing Stones are an exception, because they are essentially weights with plastic moulded around them.

LukeNine45: I have a set of Yunzi and I highly recommend them. I hope you'll post pictures of your goban when it's finished!

LipidBilayer?: I'm in the process of buying the materials right now.. Ive been to the hardware stores and Ive yet to find a large BLOCK of wood. I may have to resort to a flat goban with wood around the sides to fake the depth.. Anyone have any suggestions on places to find a block of wood..? Thanks!

LukeNine45: I'm guessing that you'll either have to special order something, or more practically glue a bunch of thin, wide planks together. A single chunk of Goban-sized wood will probably be quite expensive because it can only come from a pretty old tree...

Tamsin: Yes, buying a block of wood is expensive. Preparing it for use is also no small job. Many people have successfully compromised by gluing several thick pieces together in such a way that they look like a single piece. Incidentally, I made my goban as a 'flat-pack' design. The board rests on a frame of four pieces of veneered wood screwed together with brackets at the corners. I could dismantle it and reassemble it if I wanted to take it somewhere. Also, the board itself lifts off and can be used as a tabletop board. Not only that! The reverse side of the board was my first attempt at drawing the lines, and did not come out right, so I generally have the rough side of the board up and can use the whole ensemble as an unusual coffee table!

LipidBilayer?: Tamsin - How did you draw the lines on the board? The whole process would be nice to hear.. Does it need to be sealed first to keep the ink from bleeding? What type of marker did you use? Did you just put dots and connect with a straight edge? Thanks!

Tamsin: Hi Lipid. I used a kind of permanent fine-tip fibre pen. Because it was fine tipped, there was not a lot of bleeding, but it was necessary to wipe down my ruler after every line to prevent a build-up of residue creating splodges.

It is very important to measure out the board and to calculate where the lines should be. The method I used was to divide into halves until I have 19 lines. So, I made the outer lines first, then the centre line, then divided that into halves and so on.

It is also crucial to make the board slightly longer than it is wide. You play from the narrow ends, and the extra length makes it appear square from the viewing angle. If you have ever used a perfectly square go board (my first attempt was such), it will look a little bit strange because of foreshortening effects.

My board is made of MDF with cherry veneer, but I have found oak veneer works very nicely (I sold a couple of my gobans). To get a good finish I used a thin coating of matte varnish, then added beeswax polish, which produces a hard, durable surface, although it can be a bit shiny in direct light. Smells nice, though...

There are probably less shiny alternatives to beeswax - I think there are various oils you can use, which give a strong playing surface but only a very slight sheen.

LipidBilayer?: Thanks! I was thinking I'd use this page here: [ext] http://www.gungfu.de/go/gobans/grid/ then print it out and lay it on the board, draw dots at the edges and connect with a straight edge. The measurements of the grid on that site are a little smaller than those listed on the Equipment Dimensions page here.. but I'll just measure my stones and adjust accordingly =D Thanks for your help!

2007 February 19

Bob McGuigan: Some one has put a "homepage" on the talk page for find page. Since the same home page has been created as an independent homepage Crimz maybe the posting on the talk page for find page should be deleted.

2007 February 1

Phelan: I think the Advanced Study Room is starting to have a lot of pages dedicated to it here. I was thinking of making them all subpages of Advanced Study Room, but since it is already a subpage of KGS Rooms, that doesn't work. Any ideas?

DrStraw: Make is a top level room in its own right.

2007 January 21

Velobici: In Kyu Exercises, we have subpages for the solutions and attempts (failures). I just noticed that in Beginner Exercise 155, the solution and the attempts both appear on the solution subpage. Should we be consistent and have only a Solution subpage or have both Solution and Attempts subpages?

xela: My vote would be for consistency in the other direction: have both Attempts and Solution for all problems.

Phelan: I agree with xela, problem pages should have both subpages.

2007 January 12

anonymous: Looks like there may be go on xbox live arcade. [ext] http://kotaku.com/gaming/live-arcade/live-arcade-gonna-get-go-228329.php

2007 January 11

Dave: How do we handle spam in discussions? This topic should be deleted.
Phelan: Reporting it here or at WikiVandal will get it deleted as soon as a librarian is online, as you saw.

2007 January 7

Anonymous: The page Noninbo is not worth keeping on the Library. Delete please

Phelan: A better place to request deletion of a page would be the Wiki Orphans' Obsolete section. You can list the page there and explain why you think it should be deleted. I think the page might be interesting as a Humour page, though.

2007 January 6

blubb: I have assigned the keyword "Ongoing Game" to both DragonTourney2007 and ASRRankingTournament to allow for the heavy editing their various subpages are subjected to, which resembles the one of ongoing games. I suggest we generally use the tag "Ongoing Game" for tournament trackers (that is, "Ongoing Tournaments", describing "Ongoing Games"), too.

%''Later:'' Thanks for adding my name, Phelan. Apparently, I got a bit too used to the discussion forums where the own nick would show up twice when it was added to the source text.

2007 January 4

DrStraw: Does anyone know of a page in SL which lists newly published books. I find it hard to keep track of when each of the various publisher has something new available. Perhaps a subpage of the publishers page could itemize all books produced in the past twelve months. Any opinions?

Thad: I sort of agree but what is meant by new? I think it is hard to tell what is new, is because the publishers don't do it themselves. Perhaps a hint to their web masters?

DrStraw: Well, I did say "all books produced in the past twelve months". That may not coincide with everyone's idea of "new" but at least it covers the list for all people who only buy books once or twice a year and are trying to keep up to date.

2007 January 3

In the process of updating the ASR Tournament pages, the user ( relatively new ) to Wiki editting has gotten himself blocked. He has asked me to explain and ask to get hios account unblocked. ( I realise the block may expire before it's acted on. ) Thad

Arno: he ran into an automated anti-spammer mechanism that sometimes blocks innocent users as well. I have replied to his email, unblocked him, and told him how to circumvent getting blocked in the future.

2007 January 1

ViciousMan: Posted by proposal regarding names for Korean people and organizations at Korean Go Terms / Discussion

By the way, we should also update Korean Go Terms so that both Revised Romanization and McCune-Reischauer forms are reflected.

2006 December 28

Anonymous: how long do u stay unable to get into KGS if ur banned? what is the maximum? How long is it for flooding?

2006 December 26

All About Ko apparently isn't volume 5 of Kiseido's Mastering the Basics series, but "K75: The Basics of Go Strategy" is expected February 2007, according to a mail by Richard Bozulich.

2006 December 23

Joseki question moved to BQM330.


ViciousMan: I proposed adding a "No legal threats" policy derived from Wikipedia to SL ( [ext] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_legal_threats ). In addition, Mr. Tenuki proposed adding the three revert rule AND NPOV to SL for articles about Go Companies.

2006 December 20

ViciousMan: Should I create a Vietnamese name page? If there are a lot of Vietnamese people involved in Go, I should create one.

2006 December 19

tderz Arno, unkx80: I still don't understand why several pages have encrypted or transformed characters.
If I have e.g. a look at the characters next to the first picture on my page, then the problem still persists:
Chinese characters became incomprehensible code!

  • Why is that?

and

  • how can it be solved for all pages?

unkx80: Fixed.

What I do on a page with such a problem is to first change the character encoding to "Unicode (UTF-8)" so that the correct characters get displayed, copy these correctly displayed characters, edit the page and paste these characters over those incorrectly displayed ones.

tderz: Thank you, unkx80! Of course, the problem exists on all pages comprising Non-Western characters!
(e.g. Weiqi Tderz/Diary ).
As I notice that the problem was introduced for all pages at once,
what is the solution to set them all back into their original state - at once?
And again, what was the cause?

Your problem solution, could I also apply it?

unkx80: I think someone has already fixed those pages for you. The cause - see my 2006 December 18 post below. Whether you can apply the same fix, I think yes - I am using Firefox 2.0 on Windows XP, but I believe this should work on Internet Explorer too.

2006 December 18

(moved from Guinea Pigs' Feedback)

unkx80: While Arno's fix is nice, apparently a number of edits made after the server upgrade were in UTF-8 and these characters do not show up correctly in ISO-8859-1. Note that some pages, such as message board, have both ISO-8859-1 and UTF-8 characters. Also, some of the characters may have been "correctly" input ISO-8859-1 in this period of time.

I was told that the server upgrade was done on 2006 November 26, between 1 pm to 6 pm CET. Can some of you deshis try to correct some of these pages from Unicode to ISO-8859-1, or tell me that the problem is so widespread that I should ask Arno to write a script to fix this? Thanks.

blubb: I don't remember whether it was possible to use special characters within link descriptions before that update, but currently, I can't seem to find a way to fix the "wins by 3.5 zÄ" glitch at zi. (At that page, it's just a cosmetical issue.)

unkx80: I think SL currently does not support &#xxxx; in link texts. I have forwarded your message to Arno. Typically, if he decides to work on the SL engine, it will be done on a weekend.

2006 December 10

Viciousman: I started Korean name

2006 December 6

tderz I am (still) affected for many (all?) pages comprising characters a/o pinyin (see disicussion as of 04.12.06).
Velobici: The Chinese Go Terms page is now readable. But there are other pages that are not. One example is the first line of the Mini-FAQ on KGSRooms / DeutscheEcke which has f black diamond r in place of the german word that should be there: Dies ist die Mini-FAQ f�r den Raum "Deutsche Ecke" I am using Windows XP SP2, Firefox 2.0, with Simplied Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hebrew and Arabic installed over a American English base ;)

Bill: Both pages work for me (Firefox on Ubuntu) with Western encoding (ISO 8859-1). However, autodetect does not get it right.

nando: The autodetect feature of your browser actually does the right thing, Bill. I believe it's SL's server that does not (see my last entry in GuineaPigsFeedback)

Bill: This seems to be a new problem. The diamond shows up on Zaru Go, for instance, which has not been edited since 2004. Since I did the last edits, I would have noticed.

Arno: fixed. The issue was caused by an upgrade of the web server.

2006 December 4

Velobici: The Chinese Go Terms page has been change so that what use dto be apersand, number sign, number codes to depict accented characters (zhāo) which displayed correctly on my computers now shows these things: n�...which is a black diamond with a white question mark inside. Anyone else affected?

blubb: Same here, using Ubuntu 6.06-1.

Bill: Chinese Simplified (HZ) works for me. (Firefox browser). However, I guess it should not work. These are supposed to be roman characters, not Chinese characters. ;-)

Andy Pierce: also broken for me with MacOS 10.4.8, Safari 2.0.4

Dave: It looks like this was introduced in version 160 a year ago. Unkx80 comments that he "changed pinyin tones". This could be the cause.

nando: How does it look for you now ? I simply replaced the accentuated latin characters by numeric entities.

Dave: That fixed the display for my machine (firefox on gentoo linux).

blubb: Fixed here, too. Thanks!

Bill: Fixed for me, too. :-)

RueLue (on dec.6th): When i look on page KGSRooms / DeutscheEcke (page written in german), it does not seem to be corrected. This is new to the page (since some days? - weeks?). With winxp it's the above mentioned diamond, with win98 it is a plain question mark. Did someone play with the wiki-software?

Bill: Try character encoding Western (ISO-8859-1).

RueLue: Thankyou, that is a solution. I use here xp-sp2 and firefox 1.5.0.8 , but when I reload page, it switches back. Maybe i need to search in the settings or manual (and to play with settings?).

RueLue: I played a bit in the sandbox and found: is problem, if a page has ISO-8859-1 coded letters and becomes edited with setting unicode.

nando: someone please revert the KGSRooms / DeutscheEcke page to its version 11. Apparently, some tests I did and then cancelled, still managed to badly screw up the page. Sorry about the mess.

unkx80: Thanks for fixing the page. I don't know what happened, is it browser settings or server configuration?

nando, can you check whether I have reverted KGSRooms / DeutscheEcke correctly?

nando: that's perfect, thanks. Though, there seems to be a problem with numeric entities when used within links (in the descriptive part, left of the pipe sign). Is the website maintainer already aware of this ?

2006 December 3

ViciousMan: I assume that the policy for Korean names is to use McCune-Reischauer, correct? What does the Go world usually use? As far as I know, Korean names, while they more or less use the same Asian order (Family, Given) in English (As long as the subject is not heavily Westernized), are always spelled in an ad-hoc manner. I.E. names are romanized according to personal preference and not according to any major romanization system (i.e. it is rare to see Kim Dae-jung as Gim Dae-jung or Kim Tae-jung). When talking about people and company names, I think SL should allow for the said names to be romanized in the most common romanization for the individual, if this can be determined. If this cannot be determined, the 2000 Revised Romanization system should be used for South Koreans and Koreans born in the era before 1945 (which makes up 99% of all Koreans on SL), while North Koreans would be romanized by the McCune-Reischauer system. Use RR with Go terms, South Korean city names, etc unless a more common English spelling is available. should use RR. North Korean city names and terms should use M-R unless a more common English spelling is available.

ViciousMan: Now, I understand people who may be uncomfortable with the idea because name changes may mean that it is harder to organize people by family name. I.E. the family name I/Yi (�) (In North Korea the name is Ri (리)) can be romanized as I, Yi, Ri, Rhee, and Lee.

ViciousMan: I like the standardized name chart at McCune-Reischauer, though THAT should be moved to "List of Korean Go players by family name" and the M-R page describes the romanization system.

2006 November 30

RueLue: I just stumbled over a page "IgnoranceAndApathy" (last edit = 2003) but cold not see the (written) reference to go game. Merge? Delete? Concretize?

RueLue: Who is faster: page Yahoo became spammed.

done -- RueLue

unkx80: Got spammed again, so I locked it for now. Maybe unlock a few days later.

2006 November 28

FredK: There is a book by Shuzou Awaji whose title includes the expression, "Awaji's 語録". My reference books translate that as "sayings", as distinct from the word for "proverb". Is it likely that the intention is to distinguish his precepts from "go proverbs", or is there no particular significance in the choice of word?

Bill: I think he does mean to distinguish it from the usual term, 格言.

2006 November 27

Velobici: How is 棋理 translated into english when it refers to a class or set of problems?

Bob McGuigan: It means go logic or maybe go principles, I think, but I'm not sure what that means specifically in reference to problems. Commentators sometimes speak of a move as going against go logic.

2006 November 21

ViciousMan: It turns out that VIZ, publisher of Hikaru no Go, is westernizing Korean names. "Hon Suyon" is printed as "Suyong Hong"

2006 November 20

Bob McGuigan: It looks like the spammers have learned how to create forum pages. See shay. This page should be deleted.

2006 November 9

axd: It looks like my forum page has become a juicy target for some spammer... Maybe some SL admin could temporarily lock this page - it is not used anyway - until the storm passes? I can come back later to request to enable it again, let's say in a month or so...

RueLue: I just thought of finding more pages with that infection, but no search result for "online poker" (it is still there). Search does not search in forum messages (?).

unkx80: Forwarded your message to Arno.

RueLue: Spam remove - how to restore? (I tried to, but forgot something in: SenseisLibraryOnTour + NaturalStonePlacement (Forum); can one of the admins restore the pages to what they were before the spam? Sorry: I was too fast with spam remove.

RueLue: Thankyou!

unkx80: Done restoring these pages - and locked them again. It does get annoying when I left them locked for weeks, and they get vandalized the moment I unlocked them.

For easy revival of pages, you have to register at user preferences first. Then change your access level to deshi, see levels of access for more.

Anyway, thanks for the revival attempt.

Warder05: I'm sure you're already smart enough to have figured it out, but it seems to me like that page is getting targetted by some kind of script. I wonder if renaming the page would hide it. Just a suggestion.

unkx80: No, renaming the page is worse - the spam page gets recreated instead.

RueLue: 2006-10-12 on GuineaPigsFeedback page I put some technical thoughts: but it seems to be wrong place? There are more technical ideas on that page, it shouldn't be wrong place.

2006 October 31

RueLue: TextFormattingRules is linked by TextFormattingRulesIntroduction and some others, but browser says 'file not found'. What's this?

unkx80: Unfortunately I am unable to reproduce this "file not found" message. Can you please try to (1) clear your browser cache, and (2) if this message persists, explain which link you were clicking on. Thanks.

RueLue: Thank you! That did it.

2006 October 28

Viciousman: Hey, is "Yeonguseng" the most commonly-used spelling to refer to Korean insei in the Go world? What are the Hangul characters (so we can determine standard spellings for both RR and MR)?

Maruseru: [ext] naver lists "연구생" as "a research student", so it would be "Yeongusaeng" in RR, wouldn't it?

ViciousMan: Yeah - 1 is Yeon/Yŏn, 2 is Gu/Ku, and 3 is saeng - Yes, you are correct :)

Bill: Probably best to write 'ku' instead of 'gu' so that there is no confusion between 'Yeon' and 'Yeong'.

Maruseru: But "Yeonkusaeng" is not how it's pronounced. There shouldn't be any confusion about the first syllable being "Yeong", because if it was, the middle syllable would just be "u", making it something like "영우생". That looks rather unlikely, so it shouldn't be a cause of confusion. On the other hand, someone who needs the RR (as opposed to being able to read Hangul) would be better served with "Yeongusaeng", as that's how it's pronounced.

Bill: Well, it's not pronounced "young-oo-sang" either, which is how an English speaker would expect "Yeongusaeng" to be pronounced (more or less). "U" is a syllable in Korean, why not here? And yes, the unaspirated "K" is better rendered as "G" in English, especially after a voiced consonant. But if you know that the K is unaspirated, it's not a problem. <shrug> (It's the same K as in Baduk/Paduk.)

ViciousMan: In any case, both the MR and RR are listed, so people who read the article will figure out the proper pronunciation :)

2006 October 25

blubb: Has the expiry time for the "own contribution" flag in RC been shortened? I notice that even pages I edited about three weeks ago don`t show up green anymore, even though I have set them to in my prefs. I`d prefer the period to be at least half a year, since otherwise, I have to explicitely watch those pages, with the visual destinction from own contributions still being lost.

Phelan: I don't know if the time has been shortened, but you can now see your recent changes. It's in the personal menu. I don't know how far in time it shows, but if the only limit is the 150 entries it says, it might help.

blubb: Thanks for the pointer - I hadn`t discovered those new pages yet. However, "my edits" contains no edits by other people. Hence, it does not allow to spot followups of own contributions at all. The current (new?) implementation of RC "own contribs" coloring doesn`t really help (anymore), either.

Viciousman: Hey guys - the next Shonen Jump issue in the U.S./Canada will reveal how VIZ romanizes Hon Suyon's name (Hon Suyon is a Hikaru no Go character). This is a heads up to a possible name spelling change :)

2006 October 16

Dieter: As you will have noticed, I cleaned up a number of the pages listed under Eyes collection. I'm sure I erased content some liked, and turned discussion pages into encyclopaedic ones, thereby biasing them towards my own current understandings. I do not intend for them to be stable now once and for all. I believe people will be motivated to comment on these pages again, now that much of the noise is removed. We're far from a conclusive treatment, but the existence of recognizing an eye and Robert Jasiek's pointer towards his own studies on formal definitions of eye, and many other valuable things are out there and deserve to be read.

An overview:

  • The distinction between eye shape and eye space seems to be agreed upon.
  • The examples of two headed dragons should be mostly there.
  • Recognizing an eye serves as the reference for the common understanding of an eye, for teaching beginners purposes and for the explanation of the 2/4 rule.
  • There have been a number of personal attempts to formalize the concept. These are now on one page, except for Matt Noonan's Instant eye tester because it deserves a merge but it's too much work for me now.
  • The massive reduction is mostly due to content I judged duplicate.

2006 October 05

blubb: Well, better twice than never! :) Phelan, do you know why none of us saw a warning that the page was currently edited by the other one?

Phelan: Don't know. I used revive page(from Page History), I didn't see any edit warning, and then saved, so it probably considered my edit done before you clicked anything. I'm not sure exactly how you edited it, but it shows our edits just a minute apart. I'm thinking you might have clicked edit just a little after I saved, and pasted an old version. Or maybe there was a edit warning and I missed it, it was fast. I'm sorry if that's what happened. :/ But like you said, better twice than none.

blubb: No problem, I mainly asked out of curiosity. Indeed, I pasted an old version, which took some time - surely more than a minute. That`s why I wondered ...

2006 September 28

MrTenuki: Please "speedy lock" Froese, Shay, RulesToGoIntroductory and block 200.183.227.4 for obvious reasons (for the 6th time, these pages were attacked)...

Update: Seeing that past attempts to delete these pages only made them vulnerable to attacks (because a page that doesn't exist can't be locked), I guess our best solution right now is to lock those pages indefinitely and NOT to delete them...

unkx80: My mistake in deleting them. Usually, such attacks do not persist after being blocked or locked for a few days... Luckily, I chose to delete only three pages to see whether the vandalism still persist.

2006 September 27

Dieter: Can someone please lookup the domain behind 222.122.194.x, contact the provider and request measures against the continuous attacks by this person.

Phelan: After searching through the whois sites, I think the ISP is [ext] Korea Telecom, and their abuse address is abuse@kornet.net. I didn't see any edits by that address, though. Are they deleted?

unkx80: Phelan, see the librarian admin page. I suspect its not so much a deliberate "attack", but some indiscriminate running of a web crawler.

Phelan: Oh, hadn't seen that. Seems like a webcrawler, yeah.


FredK: Hi, Velobici, help! I tried to put a book image on the page 24 Basic Joseki but all I got was a link to the picture at the Japanese Amazon. What did you do to get the image itself to show automatically? Also your link is to images.amazon.com/.... when I tried to copy, I didn't get that URL.

Thanks. FredK

PeterHB: Hopefully the modification I have made is the type of thing you were looking for. Revert it if you don't like it. To work out how it was done, look at the edit history.

FredK: Hi, thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to do. I now see that in the future I should right-click on the image (at the Japanese web site) instead of trying to download it, in order to pick up the .jpg link that opens the image inside the SL page.

2006 September 21

Zarlan: I fixed some vandalization, and made requests for deletion on the pages the vandal created, but when I tried to reedit it, to put it in the summary as well... One shows it as a separate edit by MrTenuki, the others as separate edits by 203.113.13.3 (one digit away from the vandal and certainly not my IP).

MrTenuki: Interestingly, the edit that bears my username is actually yours. So we have two possibilies: either someone hacked into my account and edited a page with it, or the spammer hacked into the server and somehow un-deleted the "rules to go - introductory" page (which was last edited by me, to flag it for deletion since it contained spam).

By the way, why is that page so popular for spammers?

unkx80: Thanks. It appears that someone programmed a script with hardcoded pages, so that set of pages is vandalized each time the script is run.

2006 September 19

unkx80: I have blocked 203.113.13.* from editing pages for 36 hours due to vandalism (twice in a day). Thanks to all for restoring pages.

2006 September 14

FredK: To Velobici -- Thank you for Wikifying OK, How to Break Out of Beginning Kyu Levels, (Introductory Part) -- you saved me a little work :) and your source code resolved one or two mysteries. But someone (not me) removed your Kanji title from the page and I don't yet know how to import Kanji; so if you want to put them back, please feel free. (And if you can point me to instructions for myself, that would be good as well!)

Velobici: Using the ISBN (called ASIN in Asia?) that you posted on Japanese Book Reviews, I was able to look up the books at [ext] http://www.amazon.co.jp/. From there, used copy-n-paste to move the kanji to the page on Sensei's Library. SL automatically converts it to unicode for me. I am using Windows with unicode CJK support installed. From the same page at Amazon-Japan, I copied the link to the cover image into SL. Pretty easy after a couple practice runs. ;) You know, I think that we have met at a tournament in the Washington DC area.

FredK: Well, I've attended a number of Yi-Lun Yang workshops and one Jim Kerwin workshop in Maryland, most at some motel in Gaithersburg and two at a private home in Germantown. If I met you at one of those, you probably were using a name different from Velobici... :).


2006 September 5

Computer Go reaches 1 dan amateur strength...[ext] http://www.intgofed.org/history/computer_go_dec2005.pdf. Anyone have additional information ?

Dieter: In the same article, David Fotland is cited to give his program a nine stone handicap. Let's assume he knows her weaknesses best. It would still be between H6 and H9 from a 3 dan. That's not amateur dan strength. I think it says something about the certifications by the Nihon-Kiin. Something like the IOC chairman saying "these were the best olympic games ever" at the end of each episode, no matter what the quality was.

AndreasTeckentrup: the nihon kiin club has probably the weakest ranks in the world. As european 1d, I can probably play as 5d there (I went 9-1 as 4d, which would be my normal japanese rank, losing one game to my own blunder in the nadare joseki, not to a superior opponent.) This probably means that the weakest Japanese 1d players would be around 5k in Europe, 8-9k on KGS...

Bill: As for Nihon Kiin certification, I suspect that money was involved. ;-)

2006 September 4

Dieter: There have been a few initiatives to list places and people. As we already have such pages (GoPlaces), and keywords (people, to retrieve pages of such type, I suggest we abort these initiatives. Those who took it, please be not offended and continue to support SL!

2006 August 21

Bob McGuigan: The title of the page Tsugi no ichi Te is incorrect. It should be Tsugi no Itte which can be seen in the hiragana いって.

unkx80: Since Velobici moved the contents into the new page Tsugi no Itte, I have deleted the old page.

Velobici: Thank you both for helping me name the page correctly and cleaning up after my mistakes.

2006 August 20

Bob McGuigan: Please change the name of the page "Takeo Matsuda". The given name is misspelled: instead of "Takeo" it should be "Takao". I put some references with the correct spelling on the page. The Names in Go page also has the correct spelling but that link has a ? due to the "Takeo Matsuda" page having the wrong spelling in the title.

unkx80: Done renaming to Takao Matsuda.

Bob McGuigan: Thanks for the renaming. Matsuda was an early leader in Go in the USA, not much remembered nowadays.


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