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order of play discussion
Keywords: Tactics
Dieter: I just don't think order of play is an alias for sequencing questions. (See now discussion moved to tejun.) Charles I've made a fresh order of play page. Dieter: I see. I was particularly thinking about order of play in tsumego. Very often order of play is part of the comment. 1 and 3 have to be played in that order, the order of 5 and 7 can be reversed. General discussion that went on here: Dieter: Well, my major concern is the usage of this Wiki. I believe the strength of Wiki is the web we weave between pages, much more than the amount of pages we are able to create. Therefore, we need to make pagenames which are easily linkable and pages that tell something about the expression linked to. Here, I can imagine the expression order of play and its alias playing order pop up frequently. The page should tell what is meant by order of play, and especially when it matters. Then other links follow. If I click on "order of play" and I receive a list of "sequence questions", that will be very awkward to me. Charles So, what do we need? A definition of 'order of play'? I don't think that would help me much - but then I'm suspicious of definitions in Go. (We really need a Go term equivalent to 'iatrogenic' in medicine - for mistakes caused by trying to apply a definition which happens to be wrong for that kind of position.) What I observe though is that we are now creating paths instead of WikiMasterEdits. That's OK with me, in fact. I do believe in separating 'list' information from 'introduction' - that seems a cleaner way, leading to pages with one main point (?!) Dieter I do not think that all definitions are equally useful (see the Go page for that matter) but I am much more suspicious of pages where pagename and content seem to have an arbitrary relation. In particular, many pages which by other users than the creator could be viewed as a definition, reflect a personal standpoint, in a personal style. As an extreme example, the tewari page starts with the word I. Charles So, Dieter, can we try to sort out here what should be done about order of play? And if you have general comments about the future use of SL, why not post them there? Dieter: Testosterone alarm. You said you are suspicious of definitions. You observed we are creating paths instead of WME and that you like it. You could have posted those comments at FutureUseOfSL but chose to make them here. So did I. This discussion about the use of Sensei's Library is obsolete, as far as I'm concerned. I do not want to delete anything without Charles' consent, but I don't care if this page disappears. This is a copy of the living page "order of play discussion" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |