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4-4 point, double low approach
Path: DoubleKakari · Prev: 34PointDoubleLowApproach · Next: 44PointDoubleHighApproach
Difficulty: Intermediate
Keywords: Joseki
When White makes a kakari to the 4-4 point with
After White makes a double kakari, Black will usually react, because after a White play at b, Black just barely lives in the corner while White gets superb influence.[1] Black a (or c) is the most common way, while Black b is a good alternative for weaker players, because it avoids difficult variations. Charles Matthews I don't agree that Black b is better for weaker players: in this case fixing the shape with a is more promising. What you can say is that the diagonal play answer at b has experienced a revival in pro games, associated with new thinking about central influence and possible tenuki variations.
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The problem with this joseki for a weaker player is that Black at a can leave a black wall, but without a pincer attacking
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Dieter: This is considered joseki today.
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[1] Evand What are the standard continuations if Black plays tenuki again and White plays b? Under what circumstances is tenuki there a reasonable play? Charles See discussion on the J groups page, under 'Practical application'. But it is considered poor to allow the shutting-in play. Cf. BQM 48 for cases where Black has two pincer stones on the outside but still wants to be a move ahead in the fight after being shut in. firstian As a beginner, I'm always looking for the "meaning" of a move, so I can think about whether a move makes sense or not, and also how to respond when my opponent doesn't play a book move. I think I understand that either a or c are meant to separate the two stones and develop on one side. What about the meaning of b? For example, in one of my 9-stone handi game, W played:
I think the correct response to
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