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Resign right before the dame are filled
Path: BadHabits · Prev: RelyingOnTrickPlays · Next: SingingWhenPlaying To continue from Continue while Dozens of Points Behind, there are those who play a game out to the end, knowing they are behind, and when they see that their opponent makes no mistake up to the dame, resign. Bad bad habit. --Dieter In my opinion, this shows lack of respect for the opponent: You have forced the opponent to take the trouble of going on while the game was already decided, but you are unwilling to take the trouble of estimating the score and admitting the humiliation of the large difference yourself. -- Andre Engels What if the dame involve an undetermined seki, which is the difference between a close game and a large loss, the possible capture of 3 large groups of stones about the seki, in a game that was just a social game for fun? Was it then disrespectful and rude not to resign? --TB I guess one should never play for fun? It is disrespectful to consume the stronger opponent's time when the only way to win is for the opponent to make a large mistake. While such large mistakes sometimes do happen, to force the opponent to prove that they are not that stupid is disrespectful. If a game-swinging seki or other position is undetermined, then by all means play on. What is assumed for the sake of the discussion here is that in both players' minds the game is clearly won barring an incautious mistake. The less that is at stake (i.e. social game compared to tournament final game), the greater the disrespect. Resigning early and discussing it is more social and respectful of the opponent's expertise. Alex Weldon: I'm convinced that my IGS rating would be about one stone higher if I did this, or the other players didn't. Everyone else does it, and about a quarter of the time, I do get so frustrated and impatient that I blunder a large chain of stones in yose and lose. Conversely, I always resign early if I'm clearly losing, so I don't win any such games to compensate for the ones I lose that way. Ah well, ratings don't matter, and at least I can feel good about being polite even to impolite people. The other day, I encountered a strange mix of good and bad manners: I was playing a game in person, and my opponent played on when badly behind, until I overlooked a sort of combination shortage of liberties/oiotoshi kind of thing in the last few moves of the game, and lost a huge section of the board. I tried to resign, but my opponent felt bad, and insisted that he resign, since he should have much earlier. We argued about it a little bit (me claiming I deserved to lose, for making such a stupid mistake, him claiming that it was unforgiveably rude of him to allow the game to go on to that point, etc.). It was just a friendly game, though, so we quickly just forgot about it and started playing the next game. Path: BadHabits · Prev: RelyingOnTrickPlays · Next: SingingWhenPlaying This is a copy of the living page "Resign right before the dame are filled" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |