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ChessWhiz takes Black and 12 stones, but lavalyn gets Choice Go handicap - Black must offer two alternative moves every move, and White picks one for Black to play.


JoeSeki Could you do me a favor? When White plays, could you put some kind of mark on the black choices previously offered. sometimes you guys move so fast I miss the choices black offered. Perhaps leaving letters behind for the alternative. i.e. Black offers 2 x's, White chooses one of them and replaces the other x with a,b,c,d,e in it's place, for each board that gets made. So the numbered board would have a (1 and a), (3 and b), (5 and c), (7 and d), and (9 and e). Make sense?

ChessWhiz: I thought about that, but here's the problem. What if I offer two moves, and lavalyn has me play one and takes the other? A point can't be marked with both a white stone and an letter.[1]

JoeSeki: Good point! But that just means we have a need for a new kind of stone! Can the Go diagrams read double characters to create a new lettered stone? I don't know, nor do I know where to ask this question and get a better answer.

ChessWhiz: Hmm, a lettered stone... sounds like a job for Arno or Morten. :-) I hope lavalyn and I can remember how the game went so we can go through it and add the letters from the beginning.

lavalyn - uh, NO. I have difficulty enough remembering what where your little x's are after I remove them, thank you.

ChessWhiz: Hey, I just had a brilliant flash of insight. SL saves every version of this page -- all we have to do is look at each version to see how the game went. Click the pagename link at the top to view previous versions. :-D

Arno: alternatively use boards with coordinates (add a 'c' after $$B or $$W) and name the point by its coordinates.
ad [1]: well, then name the point by its move number?


[Diagram]
Diag.: Current board position (latest move marked)


[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 1-10


[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 11-20

lavalyn: W13 - Would have preferred something more solid, but the lone black escaping would devastate my position.

ChessWhiz: B14 - Take your pick, offense or defense?

lavalyn: W15 - I'll make you take the thank you move. Arigato!

ChessWhiz: B16 - This is weird. *grin*

lavalyn: W17 - The real pain in this handicap (for Black) is that both moves have to be approximately equal value - or else White will clearly prefer one over the other. Oh well, I'm happy to get a nearly living group against 12 stones.

ChessWhiz: B18 - I'd better play honte here! Not that I'm going to... :-P

lavalyn: W19 - Honte? Good luck! Complications galore, since I'll win most of them!

ChessWhiz: B20 - Your choice: boshi or cut?



[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 21-30

lavalyn: W21 - Make a fist before striking!

ChessWhiz: B26 - This is pathetic.

lavalyn: W27 - You're right.

ChessWhiz: B28 - What'dya say we just stop? This isn't turning out to be as fun as I imagined it to be. How about a game in which we both have Choice Go handicap? Or how about a real game of go?

Game paused and discussed at Choice Go Game 1 Discussion

lavalyn: W29 - Game RESUMED.

ChessWhiz: B30 - I'd better play more defensively than I have been.



[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 31-40

lavalyn: W37 - Your opponent's good move is your good move!

JoeSeki A hint for white here. Start lots of fights which separate black into a bunch of groups. Choice go forces black to fight very poorly. Contact plays are a good idea to exploit the weakness of the choice go game black must play. Once you realize black can win no ko fights -- no matter what the size, you'll realize just how big an advantage you really have here.

ChessWhiz: B38 - Hey, no hints! I don't want any fights! :-P

lavalyn: W39 - A nice luxury. Such a high position will only make attacking it easier. In the meantime, time to build some sabaki to catch up on influence.

ChessWhiz: B40 - Your attachments are driving me crazy.



[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 41-50

lavalyn: W41 - Hane, Hane back!

ChessWhiz: B42 - Ok, here's your chance. Do you want to fight?

lavalyn: W43 - Not really. You can play as defensively as you want towards your own strength.

ChessWhiz: B44 - Defense is fine with me, given the circumstances.

lavalyn: W45 - If that's the way you like it...

ChessWhiz: B46 - Ugh, this is tough.

lavalyn: W47 - You got 12 stones for this handicap!! Don't complain!

ChessWhiz: B48 - After all, 12 isn't so much when it disappears like ice in the desert. :-)

lavalyn: W49 - The clamp is harmless against me in this position. :)

ChessWhiz: B50 - How harmless? I'm ready to find out.



[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 51-60

lavalyn: W51 - Don't you think your moves are rather small right now?

ChessWhiz: B52 - Yes, they are small, but they have a purpose!

lavalyn: W53 - If you say so - player who cannot win a ko unless I let them...

ChessWhiz: B54 - Hey, don't rub it in! I've made mistakes before.

lavalyn: W55 - Make sure i can get into the center with this group!

dnerra: I still think white should play a lot more aggressively, given he gets Choice Go Handicap. Instead of endlessly discussing this - how about trying it out on 9x9? I am willing to give 4 handicap stones in exchange. ChessWhiz, lavalyn, how about it?
ChessWhiz: Ok, dnerra, I'll up the anti. I offer to give you 5 (not 4) stones on a 9x9 in exchange for Choice Go capabilities. How about it? Or do you offer 6 stones? :-)
dnerra: Hmm, of course I'd prefer to play white, to prove my point... So I guess I have to offer 5 stones + 2 komi ;-)
ChessWhiz: Well... you may be white if I can have 5.5 reverse-komi (plus 5 handicap stones).
dnerra: Ok, let's start.

ChessWhiz: B56 - I like playing a quiet game. Keep it up, lavalyn! *grin*

lavalyn: W57 - Let's mix things up a little bit.

ChessWhiz: B58 - Noooo......... No fights! No fights!

lavalyn: W59 - Why not? I like fights!

ChessWhiz: B60 - Keep Out. Keepout. Keypout. Key Pout of my territory! ;-)



[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 61-70

lavalyn: W61 - Like you're really going to get that atari! I expected you to atari from both sides though.

ChessWhiz: B62 - I have to play very solidly here.

lavalyn: W63 - Unlike me - who doesn't.

ChessWhiz: B64 - So far, I feel I've done OK in preserving some of my 12-stone lead...

lavalyn: W65 - Now you feel how powerful this handicap can really be! Can't make the first desired move. Difficulty in fighting. Always forced to make the worse of two choices. Ow.

ChessWhiz: B66 - Yeah, ouch. But I don't always have to make the worse move... sometimes you're nice to me. :-)

lavalyn: W67 - Naturally, I'll keep things complicated.

ChessWhiz: B68 - Ok, I've changed my mind... I'll play even more defensively.

lavalyn: W69 - Muhaha!!!!!!

ChessWhiz: B70 - I need to seal up these holes as soon as possible.



[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 71 - 80

lavalyn: W71 - So complicated I don't know what I'm doing!

ChessWhiz: B72 - I do... you're playing ChoiceGo. ;-P

lavalyn: W73 - No, I'm typing at a keyboard.

ChessWhiz: B74 - Must... stay... connected.....

lavalyn: W75 - As you wish. Now, let's screw up ANOTHER area!

ChessWhiz: B76 - These wild attachments are crazy.

lavalyn: W77 - Well, of course they are.

ChessWhiz: B78 - I must retain at least some profit here.

lavalyn: W79 - Good luck with that!

ChessWhiz: B80 - Thanks, I'll need it.



[Diagram]
Diag.: Moves 81 - 90

lavalyn: W81 - Taking your corner away. Gimme!

ChessWhiz: B82 - Making a valiant effort to fight back.

lavalyn: W83 - Your bamboo joint don't look like fighting back to me!

dnerra: Hey, a stone at a has disappeared!

lavalyn: You're right! How did that happen? Please remake move.

ChessWhiz: B84 - Whoa! I'm suprised nobody noticed. Thanks, dnerra! Even with that new stone, however, my move is the same.




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