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Mukashi mukashi Dear Mark, Great! Well done, sir. :-) --Bill
October 10, 2001 - 22:48 GMT-8 Time is relative Dear Mark, Your suggestion sounds great! Many thanks, Bill October 10, 2001 - 12:55 GMT-8 Bill - Sure! The impetus for me to re-work the Scoring and Counting pages was that someone asked me to explain "Stone Counting". What they were asking about was the counting method for Area Scoring. In the context of teaching students, I have seen many references to "Stone Counting" mean the method, not the older Chinese scoring rules. That said, I realize that there are also many references to "Stone Counting" meaning the scoring rules, too. In any event, I'm not attached to any naming, just that the pages make sense and that there are two concepts and two sets of pages. We need both pages for the modern counting method, and pages for the older Chinese scoring. I had moved most of the existing discussion of the scoring method (which had been on yet a third page) to AncientChineseRules. How does this look to you:
I'm all ears for other suggestions, including better names for the method. Dear MtnViewMark, The term "stone counting" has been in wide use among English-speaking go players for decades to refer to the traditional Chinese scoring method that counts 1 point for each living stone. Would you please consider reserving the SL page with that title for that scoring method, and moving its current content to another page, perhaps named StoneCountingMethod or something like that? Doing so would be a help, I think, to people consuting SL. :-) Many thanks, October 10, 2001 - 10:16 GMT+1 Well, MtnViewMark, have a well deserved rest. Tremendous job. I'll give a hand in relinking the library. --DieterVerhofstadt October 10, 2001 - 00:27 GMT-8 Whew!!!! Sorry all about the massive set of changes I just entered. I've been working on a WikiMasterEdit of all the counting pages, and, well, it just involved quite a bit of refactoring. But, now I think the material is much easier to approach, and most of the duplication has been removed. There are still many links from pages in the Library to a few pages that are now deprecated. These links should eventually be edited to point at newer pages. I've left little forwarding comments on the deprecated pages. (Couldn't use the cool, new Alias feature as not all links should be redirected to the same place.) -- MtnViewMark (tired and going to bed) October 10, 2001 - 09:17 GMT+1 MtnViewMark, you're a RecentChangesJunkies' nightmare! :-) 2001-10-6 Arno, Morten - Please see KitaniGoFirstGameSGF. I wanted to put the complete game record on an SL page but the SGF use of square brackets conflicts with the SL use (duh! :-). It would be nice to have a form of block text that is not interpreted in any way by the wiki engine. What do you think? DaveSigaty I could add a quick fix, but I'd like to think about this one a little bit longer. Is there a need for such a feature? (i.e. having SGF files stored in SL) What do others think? There's the danger of moving discussions away from the pages into SGF files, which is something I want to avoid at all cost. Opinions? --Arno
I know there is some danger of that but in this case (and probably others in the future) I wanted to post a complete record after the diagrams - and I didn't want to have to post 16 more diagrams to complete the game :-). Dave
October 5, 2001 - 17.11 GMT+1 Thanks! Let's hope they like it as well ;-) October 5, 2001 - 17:01 UT+2 I really like the way the Beginner Study Section is turning out, Stefan :-) -- Morten October 4, 2001 - 17.09 GMT+1 't was honest... (Now really! Sarcastic? Moi???) October 4, 2001 - 16.42 GMT+1
(Paranoid Morten:) Are you being sarcastic... ?
(Normal Morten:) Thanks. My teachers (many years ago) always said they were sure there was something I could do, they just couldn't see what. (very) Hidden talent, I suppose. I will keep my day job, though :-) October 4, 2001 - 15.08 GMT+1 --Stefan: Ah... BasicRulesOfGo got a lot clearer by sparingly using some subtle italics. Fine touch, Morten! :-) October 2, 2001 - 11.07 GMT+1 I copy this to the MetaDiscussion: since this discussion will stretch over time, it is not necessarily restricted to those currently present in the library. --Dieter October 2, 2001 - 10.48 GMT+1 I've spoken to some beginners who know this site, and they seemed too confused by the layout and organisation of SL to easily get to what they want. In general I think the average go player who comes here to look for something specific like, say, shape, will quickly find his way through ReferenceSection and the likes. But beginners typically "don't know what they don't know" and don't know where to start. To help meeting their needs I've added a direct shortcut to TeachingPaths very, very early, i.e. high on the FrontPage. I intend to link TeachingPaths to a lot of sections in the Library. Working through these pages, the beginners should then quickly be sufficiently familiar with SL to wander around more freely. Thoughts? Comments? Especially from beginners: do you comfortably find what you need here? --Stefan September 14, 2001 - 13.10 GMT+2 Yesterday someone mirrored SL (IP: 62.110.89.162). Today someone at IP 212.1.26.100 mirrored SL as well, their tool ignoring robots.txt and overloading SL (some 100 requests/minute). The sysadmin turned the machine off. NOTE: don't mirror SL with such a tool, especially if it ignores robots.txt. We have now limited the number of simultaneous connections to SL. This affects all users. If you experience problems accessing SL, please drop me an email. Maybe we have set the limits too low. This behaviour is abusive, exhausting our resources and denying other people access to the site. If the current limits are not enough protection or these actions don't stop I will start banning those IPs from access to the server. SL is free content (see SLCopyright), but that does not give you the right to overload our server with dumb mirroring. (clever mirroring is still allowed though. clever == obey robots.txt, limit number of simultaneous connections to 1 (one). Yes, I know that mirroring then will take you a day or so.) September 11, 2001 - 20.00 GMT+1 My sincerest wishes of courage and hope to all American contributors and all that have suffered from what happened today. Let's hope there is not more to come. Dieter (from Lisbon)
September 1, 2001 - 10.00 GMT+2 Robert, if you just make minor changes like you did on Dame etc., please use the MinorEdit checkbox below the text box while editing. Keeps RecentChanges tidy :o) --Arno OK --Robert August 28 , 2001 - 12.31 GMT+1 Page number 1000 is mine, after some savvy resistance by the jury. I would like to thank Morten, Arno, my family ... --Dieter August 28 , 2001 - 12.05 GMT+1 I have the great pleasure to announce that Stefan won the bet regarding when page number 1000 would be created. His wish was a game against a dan player who will play with her (because she'll take white) hands tied behind her back. When I've found a female dan who can play with her toes, I will get in touch with you :-)) Oh - and by the way, I think that we should congratulate Dieter with his birthday last week (if I've understood correctly). --Morten August 25 , 2001 - 20.21 GMT+1 Well, the MetaDiscussion and the GuineaPigsFeedback are cleaned up a bit. What remains is non-technical resp. technical, still relevant and not covered elsewhere. No doubt I have done a poor job so please go ahead and improve. Copies exist at pages called "old ...". August 23 , 2001 - 21.05 GMT+2 Actually, all you need to get an SGF file of the diagram is click on the diagram. For the other way (SGF->diagram) see Dieter's answer below. --ArnoHollosi
August 23 , 2001 - 19.59 GMT+1 Jvt, The whole discussion has moved to WinmgtToSlfConverter. See you there. --Dieter August 23 , 2001 - 19.20 GMT+2 Is there a program for converting Sensei's Library format into SGF? I suppose there are many utilities out there for converting text diagrams into SGF, but do they accept borders as defined in SLF? If there are several available utilities, which one is the simplest to use? BTW it would be nice to include such a conversion utility (SGF to SLF and back) in the edit page. I can write a servlet if the administrators are interested. Maybe it could be done with JavaScript too, but I don't know much about JS. About Holigo's utility: maybe the direct links would work if he adds a link (A HREF) to it on his web page. I suspect the web server refuses to retrieve the file if the URL is not accessed from a page hosted on the site, to prevent users from storing files without (local) HTML links. --jvt August 22 , 2001 - 15.55 GMT+1
Er, there seems to be a problem with accessing that page, or not for everybody ? OK, I downloaded it. I tried several times, but I got only an empty caption. What am I doing wrong ? (Dieter, not such a crazy genius - Warning: joke #:-7)
August 22 , 2001 - 17.55
For Windows users:
August 17, 2001 - 14.30 OK, we can put it on your server. We can pt the executable for people with DOS on Intel machines that don't usually come with compilers . For other platforms a source code (it is tiny) will be usefull. It is in standard C++. I guess I can email them to you, Morten.
August 17, 2001 - 09.28
Sounds useful HolIgor. If you are willing, we could put it on the SL server (unless you have your own space).
Are others interested in this for other environments than HolIgor's (which I presume is Win/DOS :-? August 17, 2001 - 14.30 I have written a very simle utility that converts a text image of the board as it is saved by WinMgt? to the Sensei's library format. It saves a lot of editting when you want to show a diagram from a game. Anybody interested? HolIgor 31 July, 2001 - 16.30 Hi HolIgor, sorry for that... I've just set my preferences. Are we sharing the same ISP? I've only started using this ISP only a few days back. :-) --unkx80 31 July, 2001 - 14.14 To unkx80: Since we happen to have the same IP address, set your prefernces, please. Our IP is the level of play is not :( --HolIgor 14 July, 2001 - 12:19 There seems to be a lot of people who created their own homepages in Sensei's Library but their names could not be found in the HomePages list. Maybe these people should add their names there as well? --unkx80 25 June, 2001 - 18:09 ToBeMasterEdited is just an idea. If the others don't feel as if this is a valuable tracking tool, but just makes it heavier, I won't object. --Dieter 22 June, 2001 - 17:20 I agreed with your thoughts - I was trying to simplify too much. I split the eyeshape into EyeShape, EyeSpace and EyePotential. It'd be nice if we could put some more nuances or maybe examples on the pages. --MortenPahle 22 June, 2001 - 15:57 I've tried to merge the concepts of 'eye shape' and 'eye space' - but there may be subtleties which is to subtle for my non-subtle mind. Corrections welcomed. --MortenPahle
30 May, 2001 - 15.46
Well, we do have an IP address (and consequently a hostname) tagged to every contribution... If worst comes to worst I guess the admins have some means at their disposal to protect content? Let's wait and see for the moment. 30 May, 2001 - 10.47 Signs of a first "attack" on SL ? We better back-up what we feel is valuable. --Dieter
30 May, 2001 - 10.47
I can't escape this vague feeling that GoLimericks will soon be a very hot topic... 29 May, 2001 - 22.43 You are right. I will have a look at it tomorrow. Then again, there is nothing to stop anyone else from fiddling with the Frontpage, so if I do a poor job, just correct it. Arno is busy at the moment but will be back soon (TM)--Morten 29 May, 2001 - 18.54 The front page says "Current hot topics include ..." and then a number of topics follow that aren't hot at all anymore. I thinik current hot topics include the endgametests, the ongoingame2, the Kanazawaseries, BQM ... but I think only Arno or Morten should touch it. Or am I wrong ? And by the way, where is Arno ?
28 May, 2001 - 16.09
All right, all right. I'll be a good sport. I say 31 August, at 23.59 ;-) And we're not optimistic. Just provocative... 28 May, 2001 - 15.15 Yes - your estimate is open-ended. If you were to re-state it as 'the 1st of September' it would compare better with ours ;^) Actually, I think we may be too optimistic - June, July and August are bound to be 'low' months, but we'll see.
28 May, 2001 - 15.13
You do realise that if you guys win, I win too, don't you?
28 May, 2001 - 14.13
OK. I'll take a bet on August 20th, for fancy reasons which are not too hard to guess. Each Kanazawa Problem represents two pages. That should allow me to do some tuning #:-7
28 May, 2001 - 13.34
Someone with more imagination than me is invited to invent some better WikiNames for the pages referenced on Variants :-)
23 May, 2001 - 15.15 I bet it will be before September 1st. If I win, I want a game against a dan player, in which she (because she will take White :-) plays with one hand tied behind her back. --Stefan 23 May, 2001 - 14.49 The 'new pages/day' statistic fluctuates quite wildly between 2-3 and 19 (current record set on 10/05/01), so that may take 3-30 days. How about a bet for how long it will take us to get to 1000? --Morten 23 May, 2001 - 14.24 You just wait for your chance, and you'll get that cherished 666. --Dieter 23 May, 2001 - 14.00 Hey Dieter, you just created page number 600! --Stefan This is a copy of the living page "Messages To People Currently Present In The Library" at Sensei's Library. (C) the Authors, published under the OpenContent License V1.0. |