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Ongoing Game Two Move Thirty Nine Discussed
DieterVerhofstadt (1k): MortenPahle (10k): (Not an excuse, but an explanation:) I saw this, but I thought that this also leves white completely settled on the left - his group and territory is safe. I realised that the keima was thinner, but didn't think that white would be wanting to cut, since it would mean giving up most of his group. However, I did think black would end in sente, which he probably will not...
I think Bill meant this diagram for move 45. MortenPahle: Doh! When I looked at this line, I imagined that white 8 at 9 would actually recapture the corner - but after some more reading I see that that is wrong.
This what you read ? (Couldn't resist) --Dieter
No, it was more like this. After 5, white and black both have 3 liberties, but black needs more approach plays to capture, so white wins the semeai. I'd not 'read' the black play at 'a' threatening capture or connection&capture ... --Morten Bill Spight:
B 6 is a play to know about. It comes up quite often. Discussion:
MortenPahle - the question is whether there's anything left to strike once the fist is made ;^)
Bill Spight: B 41 looks better at 50, eh? MortenPahle: Hmm. This can get tricky. Black 39 may turn out to have been greedy. DieterVerhofstadt: Thin, not greedy. HolIgor 42: Black has taken the corner. It is an established fact. White's intention is to either limit black in sente or have a furikawari. I wonder why black did not play at '3' at move 39 instead? DieterVerhofstadt: Yes. IF I would play in that area, I'd indeed played at '3'. The keima leaves a weakness. Bill: It looks like B 45 will end up with gote. Maybe it would be worth it to play at 48 and take sente. MortenPahle: I don't understand your comment, Bill. Can you elaborate? Holigor 46: I thought that white should not determine the position at this move and try to keep a little ahead of black. (--Dieter: you're probably right. I thought this way there would be more aji.) MortenPahle: At the end of this sequence I am not sure how to continue - I have the feeling that white has thwarted my original intentions, but I take the risk of putting my head on the block and continue what I started .... Just for my continuous improvement, can one of you give me an example of what could have happened if black 39 at 43?
unkx80 33: Because white can play at 34, I guess black 33 might be better off playing at either 34 or 37? Bill Spight 34: Trying to play lightly. Bill Spight: We seem to have stalled, and at a very interesting point, too. ;-) Too much kibitzing? I would find that inhibiting, even though I would be glad for later discussion. White fell behind early on, but the center fight offers possibilities. :-) HolIgor: It seems that black resigned. MortenPahle 37: Why not? Bill Spight: B 37 at 'a' is also a thought. MortenPahle 39: Make a fist before striking :-) HolIgor 40: Aye, aye, sir This is a copy of the living page "Ongoing Game Two Move Thirty Nine Discussed" at Sensei's Library. (C) the Authors, published under the OpenContent License V1.0. |