# Practical Endgame Test 8/ Discussion

Slowman: my opinion: move 1 is worth 1.5 points (1+2 follow-up, so 3/2=1.5) But if white takes this point, he creates 3rd 2-point move, so he can take 2 of them

Bill: If that play is worth 1.5 points (deiri), why is wrong in the next diagram, even though it is a bigger play (2 points deiri)?

Black wins

Jigo

Slowman: Sure, it is tedomari problem.

Let's just look at the bottom two lines.

Black first

Black makes one point at in gote.

White first

White makes one point at and threatens to capture .

We both agree that the next play is worth 2 points by deiri counting. But if is worth only 1.5 points, then Black's reply is bigger, and Black should connect.

Sente

By comparison with Black's playing first, White has one more point. So if we start off assuming that is a 1.5 point gote, we are led to see it as a 1 point sente.

1.5 point play

This is a 1.5 point play by deiri counting. If White plays first she gets two points ().

1.5 point play

If Black plays first White has 0.5 point at , 1 point if White plays, no points if Black does. The swing is 1.5 points.

Slowman: Thanks, Bill

Practical Endgame Test 8/ Discussion last edited by Slowman on May 26, 2005 - 23:15