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I was explaining to my younger brother how he could use the following position as a source of kothreats.


I asked him, if he were to play twice with White, which points he would choose. He chose the marked ones. Very good I said, this way you threaten seki, taking 8 points from me, which is much more than the 1-point ko we are fighting.

What I ignored, was the fact that playing the 2-2 point actually makes seki !!!


The points 2 and 3 are miai; so are 4 and 5

This must be known to many of you; but I didn't know that. When the endgame comes to 8 point gote moves, Black has to reinforce.

Bill Spight: This is a standard position.

Standard sequence  

After White 1, Black 2 threatens to kill the white stone, forcing White 3.


Black 4 - White 5 makes seki. White 5 - Black 4 does the same. (Though White 5 indicates a desire to avoid ko. In that case Black's reply at 4 is not urgent.)

Seki is the usual result, but there is a throw-in ko.


White can throw a stone into the corner to make a two-stage ko. Or Black can throw in at 2 to make the same ko.

However, this ko normally favors White, so Black will usually make seki.
The play on the 2-2 is then normally a 3 1/2 point gote (miai counting).

Gun Eight / Discussion last edited by BillSpight on November 13, 2003 - 04:47
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