BQM164

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[Diagram]
Unexpected response on kikashi  

IlyaM (8k): This is the position from the game I recently played. Unfortunately I don't remember well whole board position so I'm showing only the corner. I played kikashi B1 and I was expecting the response at a. W2 surprised me and I failed to came up with good follow-up. What is the best sequence for Black here locally?


[Diagram]
Divide and conquer  

Bill: What's wrong with B1? If W2, B3 looks OK.

White has several weaknesses, such as a and b.



Note: Isn't the right place for kikashi usually a in the original diagram, threatening b, either as a cross-cut or a hane?

Charles This is a follow-up to the 4-4 point low approach low extension, slide, 3-3. We could do with a 4-4 point low approach low extension, standard joseki, follow-ups? page, considering that this is perhaps the most common joseki, currently. I believe the play below is more common than Bill's suggestion. Obviously there are a number of ideas in the position. If Black at a in the original diagram, then White at c is taught as an answer. Looking at pro games, Black a is not so frequent; and White at c is not at all common. A possible conclusion is that pros only play at a when the response at c isn't good enough.


[Diagram]
Another common idea.  

If one wants to isolate this white group from the centre, this sequence may be what you were looking for.

[Diagram]
Continuation  

And the white group in the centre (not shown in the diagram) dies.

Charles W4 there is not the usual play.

[Diagram]
Continuation (ii)  

In this position W1 is the normal idea, not helping Black to develop the kikashi stones black+circle, but defending White's shape.


BQM164 last edited by CharlesMatthews on June 7, 2004 - 10:56
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