BQM 434

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White can also avoid fighting, by playing W4 as the staircase. This is White's plan of preference when Black has a stone already in place on the left side.

See discussion at 45103 enclosure, and comments below.

Naive kyu question: what if W4 at B5 when the ladder is bad for black?

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This?

hhw: Did you mean something like this in the original question? White doesn't look too good, maybe can play b instead of a with the ladder.

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...continued

hhw: Continuing with b from last diagram, White captures some stones, but Black's wall is solid and can still play at c to seal off the bottom.

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Better follow-up?

This was suggested to me. Now a loses two stones (after c d, double ladder - now comes the ladder for B!) and b loses the corner.


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