Hikaru's comment

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This article is about a game in the anime and manga series Hikaru no Go. Two characters, Toya Meijin (the meijin in the series, real name Koyo Toya) and Fujiwara-no-Sai are playing a Go game. Hikaru Shindo, the protagonist, is placing the stones down for Sai, who is a spirit. Hikaru makes a comment regarding one of Toya Meijin's moves.


JonatanLindstrom: When Sai's game against Touya Meijin is finished (chapter 116) Hikaru comments one of Touya's moves. Could any one please comment the comment? :-)

HolIgor: As I remember, I have to check with the game though, Toya Meijin had a placement tesuji in the left top corner that allowed him to skip connection and thus win the game. But I did not read that out.

JonatanLindstrom: Hikaru is speaking about move #181 (the [ext] game is really between Yoda Norimoto (White) and Rin Kaiho played on 1997-05-01 during the 22nd Meijin League).

[Diagram]

move #181

Hikaru says: "If he had placed a stone in the corner over here..." (we can't see where he is pointing) "White is forced to protect"

Where is "here", and what happens next?

Robert Pauli: In the game White kind of protected at circle, but to me the corner seems save without: enough outside liberties to sqeeze . . . Was circle just a big yose?


Vesa: My theory...corrected

[Diagram]

variation for #181

Black scores points compared to the game.

[Diagram]

Later approximately 7 points endgame


Tas: I still don't understand this. Could someone please elaborate? And what are the further suroundings? are all outside stones alive?

Zelda91:(hypothesis) It's not seki, so if you want to kill the stones you must get rid of all ko threats first, I suppose that what is meant, so it's a tesuji forcing him to play connected on the whole board which is a sacrifice of pts. I suppose the particular shape of the game made it a very solid in connections type. So no threats are avoided: more pts are scored.


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