Traditional Baduk

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[ext] http://www.traditionalbaduk.com/


GrandYan : A new server, supposedly. It's a English and Korean server, but the website is mostly in English.


This program is very advanced program and well made. Best of all, it is free to register and play. No cost to use this site.

The program offers some interesting features: a metabolism health guide, broadcasting music and white board for conferences, lecture with voice or chat, Lesson (self study), play with opponent or multi-play, comunicate individual with voice or chat, free e-mail within the program, and an option to watch broadcast games.

This is a best computer program I ever seen so far!

This Baduk Program (Baduk Life Program) provides by Traditional Baduk Association.

The site administrator said, To use program with full services are free(no hidden fees) because one of doctor contributed the money to develop the program with commitment of no charge.

However, the Traditional Baduk Association opperates sepetately and acceptes donation to support organization to share of Baduk.

I confirmed that there is no charge to use full functions of program and no obligate to become a member of TBA (Traditional Baduk Association).

Remember! They are two members: One is Baduk Life Program Member - Free of Charge Other is TBA Member - Donation

Either ways...No charges...

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Steve: Has anyone gotten the Java webstart client provided on the homepage to connect to a server? I installed it, and it hangs if I try to login directly, but if I choose the "Apply/register" option, it prompts me for a whole lot of personal information, and after I've entered it, I get told the client has had a "fatal error", and then the program freezes. Is this server a scam, or is it the real thing?

Tamsin: I've had the same thing happen to me. I'm now getting a bit worried about what they might do with my personal details.

Tamsin: Re: the above: I am getting increasingly worried. It never occurred to me that scamsters would use a Baduk site to rip people off, but the more I look at this site, the more suspicious it seems to be (no address, no telephone number, no working links). Please could somebody who knows about Korean servers take a look and tell us what you think? Please! Let's not let anybody else fall into a trap if there is one.

LoP: If you are worried enough you can try to contact the owner of the domain name:

      TraditionalBaduk Association
      4724 West Lovers Lane
      Dallas, TX 75209
      US
      Phone: 214-358-0077
      Fax..: 214-358-0071
      Email: doctor@ohtc.com
   Domain Name: TRADITIONALBADUK.COM
      Created on..............: Wed, Sep 08, 2004
      Expires on..............: Sat, Sep 08, 2007
      Record last updated on..: Wed, Jun 01, 2005

nachtrabe: While I don't think it is a scam, it is a good idea to read the [ext] privacy policy before submitting personal information to any organization.

Answer from Baduk Life Program by TBA: Well, I am an administrator of Baduk Life Program. We have a lot of people login and play the baduk. Sounds like those two persons experiences are un-common on our server. However, if you do not enter proper information for register and missed the information in box where your information to be entered, it might be holding several seconds to several minutes. What the holding means that server is checking your information for valid. I want you know that this process will taking little time to confirm User I.D. and your information by our server. Or, sometimes, your computer's compatibiliy issues. You should check your computer's compatibiliy by clicking download information on home page at www.traditionalbaduk.com. If you concern anything about our site, you should contact us directly by phone. 214-358-0077 Our TBA locates Dallas, Texas in USA

I checked above site myself. It was a good site. And I was so disapointed to the people and their flippancy and paranoia for something like this situation. Steve Johnson

Steve: First off, not living in the USA, phoning Dallas is out of the question for me. Secondly, I don't regard it as paranoia in our age of scams to be suspicious of programs which take personal information and then mysteriously crash or stop responding. Unfortunately, Mr. Steve Johnson, I do not know you, and knowing the measures scammers take to try to put a good front on their activities, I will continue to be suspicious of (and warn others of) this program until a familiar person on Sensei's Library confirms that they have successfully used this program to connect to the server and play Baduk. Just to clarify one further thing, I have also checked the website - while it does not seem suspicious, it does not ease my worries much.

Dieter: I have checked the website but didn't register. Not that I am afraid of being scammed but the poor usage of the English language doesn't really encourage one to enter YAGS. On the other hand, they went through all the trouble of listing Go clubs and their responsibles in the United States, so their being scammers looks much like a hoax. I suggest to drop the accusations here at Sensei's and merely list users' experiences.

Tamsin: People would list their experiences if they could get onto the site. I am still concerned, though, because I naively gave up my name, address and telephone number to register (and I'm sure I did fill the form in correctly), and have not once been able to make a successful connection. Now, since I registered, nothing bad has happened to my bank balance, so I am less worried than I was...but there is a lot of identity fraud about these days, and it's only common sense to be suspicious of sites that ask for many personal details and then do not deliver the service that you expect. Believe me, when I make a successful connection to TBA, I shall be speedy in writing about its merits. And flagging our concerns is not making accusations; it is merely being responsible. This could be a great place to play; but so far I've never been able to play there.

Dieter: Hmmm. At a second glance, why would someone named "Steve Johnson" write so poor English? The site administrator said, To use program with full services are free(no hidden fees) because one of doctor contributed the money to develop the program with commitment of no charge. Hmmm again.

Basti: I logged in to the server last night by just entering a name, a random password and pressing login. The program offered me to log in as a guest and I was on the server.

Message from the administrator of Baduk Life Program: I understand of all these confusions. Althou, let's stop this accusation and I wish you take a true TBA's intension for the public welfare evenif you do not believe so. Sincerely...

Tamsin: Steven and I are not accusing anybody of anything. Rather, we are sharing our concerns because, unfortunately, there are many scams about. The point is this: the program requests a very large amount of personal data and then never seems to work. I shall try Basti's method of logging in as a guest; hopefully, it will work and TBA will turn out to be a great place to play baduk. But, it is only responsible and right to share concerns where you have them.

Tamsin, Thank you for your explanation about the confusion. In fact, we try to prevent from people to abuse internet program. There are a lot of people abuse internet computer program due to lack of their information to register. Again, our site is private site. And we are trying to ensure and protect our users. Also, we have a privacy policy on home page that clearly explained. I hope this is no more issue to discuss about. And I would like sincerely apologized to those had such unfortunate experienced from our Program. Thank you very much!


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