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Example of honte

Both moves W1 and B2 are examples of honest plays.




Bill Spight: I think that W1 is honte, but B2 is korigatachi. How about this?

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Example of honte (ii)

This is a good example of honte; but in the next Diagram 2 the W1 creates some aji.


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Dia 2. Some aji if Black 2 tenuki.

It won't be easy to catch this white group, specially with a little help from some friends. -- Holigor



Bill: Well, B4 at a looks better, eh? ;-)


Let's do tewari on the first example diagram.

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Tewari

After B1, the exchange BC/WC favors White.



If Black is going to come back and protect at B1, better not play the BC keima first.

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One-space pincer

We see the exchange of B1 - W2 when Black has instead made the one-space pincer (BS stone).

Then Black does not come back to protect.


Holigor: I like this discussion. I am most interested in what happens after joseki. The interest is even bigger taking into account that I managed to kill the black wall in a way similar to Diagram 2 this week :).

Now about the move a in Diagram 2. In a game between Kobayashi Koichi and Cho Chikun in a similar situation, the following thing happened.

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This resulted in a furious fight.



Material moved from honte by Charles Matthews; example and comments were by HolIgor.



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