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3-4 point, high approach, ogeima
Keywords: Joseki
Fired off by the amateur fuseki 2 discussion, let's discuss this ogeima answer to the 3-4 point, high approach:
dieter: I think a, b and tenuki are the options to assess. Database search (gobase) in a 10x10 quadrant reveals two games with a, one game with c and three games with tenuki.
This sequence looks kind of forced. Now, can White play a ? The database search seems to support the idea that this is unfavourable for Black. KOKIRI - the numbering here is messed up - i think this is what you mean?
kokiri: this looks fairly natural to me and good for white. a if w6 fails to capture the two stones might be a bit overconcentrated and might give up the corner, 'm not sure
Klaus: yes, white is strong, but black got more points. Fair? kokiri - this seems natural to me and a fairly even exchange
Dieter: Maybe the result is fair but the exchange is not. I believe both kokiri - ok - this looks like a case of playing 3 rather than 1-2-3. i will think about it.
The other contact play reverts to a 5-4 point joseki. The database search gives
Does White have severer plays against This is a copy of the living page "3-4 point, high approach, ogeima" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |