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4-4 point Josekis
Keywords: Joseki, Index page
This gives an overview of 4-4 point joseki that have a page (or several pages) on Sensei's Library.
For each joseki, here or at the linked page a standard sequence is given (this is one of the more common ones, but need not be the absolutely most common one), and an overview of pages dealing with that joseki and its variations.
Black may get to play another stone in this corner before White does. See 4-4 point enclosure josekis.
A linked play may not be joseki. See also 4-4 point low approach statistics.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/44/e2ccf76ed4c5e56d7d1c521e44e1d463.png) | Low approach |
High approach
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/21/e13917532dd4f9d8013ea35881f70c21.png) | High approach |
Distant high approach
- 4-4 point distant high approach?
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/40/108e04d56a13f6929224ecbed5caf710.png) | Distant high approach |
At a: 4-4 point distant high approach two space low pincer?
At b: 4-4 point distant high approach one space high extension?
Alex Weldon: I'm adding this in the hopes that other people will supply the josekis for this move, since I'm extremely busy these days. If not, I'll do it myself in the next couple of weeks, but I can't really provide much information beyond what's in Kogo's Joseki Dictionary.
Distant low approach
- 4-4 point distant low approach?
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/50/ad7bf335f3882a83c94db5d47ecc0714.png) | Distant low approach |
Fwiffo: I get this approach to my hoshi stone now and again, mainly by mid-teen kyus. I assume is not exactly a great move since I don't see it played by higher level players and I don't see any sort of reference to it here. I don't feel a particularly urgent need to do much about so I tenuki as often as not... If I do respond immediately, it will usually be an extension in the vicinity of a or a pincer somewhere around b. Are there joskei for this approach?
Bill: Yes, there are joseki for it. The usual replies are the kosumi at c and the large knight's response (one of the as).
Fwiffo: Thank you. I did a search for this position on gobase.org and it does indeed seem to be somewhat uncommon in pro play. seems to be most often in invasion of the side when black has a position established in the upper right, moreso than an approach to the corner. In the cases where it does look like an approach, black usually has some thickness in the upper right facing this direction. In either case, the point appears to be to prevent a black play in the same area. The most common reply does appear to be c, sometimes followed by white around d then black a. Sometimes white would make a second approach around a instead of d.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/0/aa7884e8c3d00d6db4bd9764f660c671.png) | distant low approach fuseki |
Common when white wedges on the side and wants a safe base with rather than the more aggressive move at a.
Other moves
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/21/ac10a10c80654c817a570c788bec2ec9.png) | 3-3 point invasion |
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/2/2c39f634b9e44e2fd9e62e172f4ce029.png) | Very low approach |
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/16/7ecdccc3800b92478e96832d60a87a46.png) | Shoulderhit |
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/37/899555bd996ca0c5155638f659e5731f.png) | 3-4 point attachment |
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"4-4 point Josekis" at
Sensei's Library.
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