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How to respond to kakari in a four-stone handicap game
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Difficulty: Intermediate Keywords: Opening
It is impressive how fast the advantage of four stones melts away in games of 7k against shodan players.
The plays a, b and c are often described as the best ways to respond to the marked white stone, especially in handicap games. While a might be the most secure play, it strengthens the white stone. At b is better for influence and c is better for quick territory. AvatarDJFlux 3k: But c doesn't guarantee any territory at all: having played the marked stone, White can still invade at san-san. A play at c is just more solid and less attacking than b. The choice is a matter of taste and of the surrounding position: if White has a strong position down the left side I would prefer to play the more solid c, rather than b. You may also consider playing a pincer to the left of White's kakari. But how to choose the answer in terms of whole board strategy? I (217.230.20.209) recently played this (Diagram 2) following local joseki and the proverb that it is never wrong to respond to kakari. But was I correct with respect for the whole board? What are the next big points for Black?
AvatarDJFlux 3k: I do not see anything wrong with your play.
Klaus How did the position abouth arrise in the game? Let's assume the following:
Klaus: Maybe Black jumpled out at a after
Klaus: White will probably jump out at Charles: This was asked recently on rec.games.go.
I believe that Bill: I like d, myself. :-) e is not bad, either. Charles: Bill, we know you like tenuki: but that must be on another board ...
FilipVanderstappen: Truly, I cannot follow white's reasoning. His play is clearly too slow and his last move is obviously very bad. I cannot find anything wrong with B's play. It is quite reasonable (and in this position actually very good) to tenuki after having played the kosumi.Only I would prefer for B's last move to be maybe a shimari but that is a minor issue. The position is clearly lost for white (even taking the handicap into account). With all due respect to W, I think his irritation (apparently) clouded his judgment.
Charles: RafaelCaetano: I don't understand why would a 3d would play W11. It looks like a double-digit move, capturing 2 non-cutting stones when there are a lot of big moves on the board. Am I missing something?
PurpleHaze: I believe he was just irritated/provoked by my continual tenukiing. I still am not convinced that my play was correct, perhaps I should have played Charles Although myself sometimes irritated by pupils (and a 3 dan), I lack sympathy for White here. Fhayashi I think the 3-dan here inadvertantly gave PurpleHaze a very important lesson in tenuki... If the game was posted without explanation, it would look like black is teaching white a lesson in looking at the whole board. Path: Handicap · Prev: Overplay · Next: PlayingWhiteInHandicap Path: PleaseReviewMe · Prev: TwoShodansTwentyFiveMovesSevenMistakes · Next: TheSmallLowEnclosureIsSecure This is a copy of the living page "How to respond to kakari in a four-stone handicap game" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |