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3-3 point invasion query 1
Difficulty: Intermediate Keywords: Joseki
Scartol: I apologize if this seems like a facile question, but I'm starting to get into the 3-3 invasion, and I don't know what I'm doing.
Suppose Black plays the low hane instead of the high with
Bill: I think that usually Adamzero: For Black to make that hane is unreasonable. It could lead to many possible results, three of which I've shown, and none of which are any good for Black.
The first diagram lets White make territory on the fourth line and leaves Black with tons of cutting points.
The second diagram lets White live easily and get the aji of the clamp at a or, considering the strength of White's corner, the cut at b or the hane at c if Black responds to protect at d.
The third diagram leaves Black with even more cutting points, and Black cannot prevent White from using at least one of them, if desired. JamesA: Sorry, Adamzero, but I'm not sure your analysis is correct!
I think
White can play at
This sequence is more or less the same as the last. Black should finish up with
Adamzero: Thanks for the corrections.
Dieter 1d:
In answer to Bill: That is joseki?
How about
After
Dieter: You are right Bill, I was getting confused with this line of play.
Bill: In response to a question by mAsterdam as to when the second line hane is correct, here is the only case I know. It is one joseki when Black makes a one-space pincer.
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