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BQM 132
Path: BigQuestionMark · Prev: BQM131 · Next: BQM133
I've seen
Upon seeing it my opponent says 'oh, you like this joseki, do you. I think that white gets a better position.' and slaps down
'Hmm, maybe', says I, thinking he means the diagram marked main line in 34PointHighApproachTwoSpaceHighPincerOgeima and replied with
He said something about not remembering the next move in the sequence and played Unfortunately his Girlfriend summoned him shopping after the game ended, so we didn't get to talk about it afterwards. IIRC, ishida says that, although not exactly joseki, when it was played in pro games, both white and black thought they'd come out ahead so it must be playable and I think that get strong at joseki says that black's thickness gives and even result. QuestionWhite has the choice of heading down this path, rather than playing the main line given below. If it were considered better for white at the top level, thus, 1) white would play it and so 2) black would stop giving white the chance to play it. to me it looks like white has got a 20 point corner at the cost of a ponnuki but even though black has a facing position in the bottom right, he also has an open skirt so it's going to be easy for white to prevent a black moyo on the right of any size. How should black go about taking advantage of the position he has given up 20 points for?
Is I'd be interested in hearing what other players think of this variation. especially if you, as white would choose to play the 'main line' below, rather than take the corner. Cheers, kokiri
SnotNose: I think both the main line and the variation given at the top of the page are playable, in general. So, the choice must be based on (1) the whole board situation and (2) one's taste (i.e., whether one wants influence or territory). I think kokiri has already summed up the situation as played quite well. Black has a moyo going on the right, but it is open at the top. Since it is open at the top, I wonder if Black a or b in the figure at the top of the page would be better, emphasizing the corner a bit more. White got quite a bit of territory (more than 20 points I think). All in all, I think this is a reasonable result. Let's look at the proposed alternative.
SnotNose: Suppose Black finishes up with I conclude the choice is a matter of taste but I look forward to reading differing thoughts from others. sarge?: I've seen that first sequence in a joseki book Path: BigQuestionMark · Prev: BQM131 · Next: BQM133 This is a copy of the living page "BQM 132" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |