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3-4 point high approach outside contact
PageType: Path Difficulty: Intermediate Keywords: Joseki
We discuss Black's intention is to develop along the left side and perhaps into the center. White can choose for a strong position at the upper side with a, or try to take the corner with b. Especially the latter move is likely to start some extremely complex variations. White should not play this move if the ladder is bad for her.
After the hane
The second option at
After Black a is standard. Black takes influence towards the upper side. This is typically a joseki that is to be learned - not many variations, but the main line has some tesuji that is hard to find while at the board. See 3-4 point high approach, double contact hane. Black b is a simple variation, which is good if the left side is more important than the upper side. See 3-4 point high approach, double contact, wall.
After
What about this move? It's hard to find info about it I found only 1 pro game (Kitani Minoru - Inoue Ichiro 1928) with
iff: Could someone please explain how to handle this (I had it several times recently):
I tried this once, but crawling along the 2nd line looks bad...
So is simply going for outward influence good enough?
Bill: The Small Joseki Dictionary by Kitani and Suzuki gives this variation, which compares favorably for Black with the joseki starting with
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