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Teaching Game 67 Moves 11 Thru 20
Keywords: Ongoing game
This is a Teaching Game so please add genereous comments. Anyone can a question or kibitz. It makes for a good learning experience (and nice reading material for others). Hopefully we see some dan level player with their kibitzes here as well
JoeSeki W20: No choice here, as anything else is just too good for Black. If you atari at F3, go ahead and fill for me and play your next move. DJ B19: Well, yes, I think so! JoeSeki W18: Is it a one-way street now?
DJ B17: Gotcha! Here we go... JoeSeki W16: Must be turning to the outside then.
DJ B15: In fact, I'm not planning to have a fight! ;-) JoeSeki W14: Did you consider C7 for B13? With White having both corners low and ready for a fight, it doesn't seem like you should be looking for a fight here. C7 is probably better than going with the avalanche variation. Now the next three moves I think are a one-way street. The question for me is, do you turn in or out?
DJ B13: I think that both the small and the large avalanche have so many variations that can develop toward almost anything and any direction... Let's try to steer the joseki in the direction we think positive for our goals - whether or not we have a clear goal in mind! ;-) JoeSeki W12: I've never seen anything else but this. [1] As for Black 11 the small avalanche emphasizes the lower side, the large avalance takes territory and builds the left side. Of course I could be all wrong, these variations are a bit over my head to evaluate, let alone decide if the direction of play is correct.
DJ B11: No, I do not think there are any other possible moves but the white marked stone.
JoeSeki
[1] unkx80: Alternative and much simpler play for White. I believe this is joseki too? JoeSeki But then White has eight spaces between this group of stones and a third line stone in the lower right. That seems way too wide. With Black going next I'd say this is not the right direction of play to consider.
AvatarDJFlux: Hmmm... maybe, I do not know joseki very well. This is a copy of the living page "Teaching Game 67 Moves 11 Thru 20" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |