Beginner Exercise 8 Solution
Difficulty: Beginner
Keywords: Problem
lavalyn 17k again - maybe I should stop submitting these spoilers.
- Dieter: only when you stop feeling a beginner. Feel free !''
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/21/07eb5f5ca59df14f432da193a5d9a658.png) | Well there goes the eyespace. |
a is a false eye. To live, White must make seki in the larger space that contains three black stones. hits the vital point of the position. ( would make seki.)
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/14/7881eb4c6a61dffa0f774f1ce4e1cf48.png) | Looks like seki, doesn't it? |
We'll fill up some liberties - then...
BonhommedeNeige: I'm only a beginner, but I've thought long about this, and I don't understand how between the first diagram and the one above, Black has placed 3 stones and White has placed only one.
Bill: If White is alive, allowing Black to fill in those liberties does not matter. (Unless White must capture the Black stones inside. However, that would leave White with a dead shape.)
BonhommedeNeige: Also, after Black takes the vital point, would it not make more sense for white to move to K1, forcing black to block as shown:
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/38/aa5b2c281d5946e4e2d5b1d99141fe20.png) | White tries to escape |
Now White moves to and can kill the group of 2 at lower left to create more eyespace, then try to kill square group of 4 it encloses.
Some clarification please!
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/38/143e464572090858e50b2745b53a1f36.png) | White tries to escape |
Bill: captures , saving the two Black stones. (Although that is not really necessary, as you may work out if you wish.) White cannot escape.
Also, it does White no good to capture the four Black stones. See below.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/27/05838cde4a3cc928329f66db5b4b0214.png) | Maybe not - B3 at the marked point. |
White dies with a bulky five shape.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/21/aa4e2f77cb1cbbefed415fc145192ec0.png) | Even if Black doesn't play |
Even if Black doesn't play again in this area ( elsewhere) White still dies with a squared four.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/46/c9d8490e3ab12577cb495a4df1026342.png) | White seki. |
If White takes the vital point, she forms a seki. An attempt by Black to kill the group instead yields either a bent four or a twisted four both of which are live shapes. These are shown in the failure diagrams below.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/46/337e108a920c1aa9c21d1b7f9c8436a7.png) | White ignores seki. |
( elsewhere.) If White doesn't understand seki and attempts to capture using and , then White is left with a bent three; Black can now kill White by playing back at .
unkx80: Adding one failure diagram.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/39/56a764a45fd18cf64fe43e6630e82a88.png) | Failure |
Playing at does not help. occupies the vital point, and White lives in the shape of twisted four.
Easco adding another failure diagram.
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/3/79571f871a479b4ab522aa462b0f172b.png) | Failure. |
Playing at in this diagram doesn't help either. Again, occupies the vital point, and White lives in the shape of bent four.
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