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Global Seki Ongoing Game
Keywords: Life & Death, Ongoing game
Rubilia proposed the following arrangement in MaximumNumberOfLiveGroups. This looks beautifully symmetric as it is, but I'd like to sacrifice its immaculate beauty by playing it. -- (Sebastian)
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/31/c10b06ed07de6843f5ac623fc2906d53.png) | 181 strings - but seki? moves 1 to 10 |
- no idea if this is a good move. Let's see what happens. -- (Sebastian)
- same here :) -- rubilia
- Here's my thought process:
- I have the eery feeling that whoever starts at a given place has no chance of getting life there him/herself, because the opponent can always block just enough.
- But wait a minute - isn't that always the case in Go? The only difference is that it's hard to see interaction between remote stones.
- I'm considering retracting my move to tenuki and try out if there is any of if it is all neutralized by the stones in between.
- But if I tenuki than you definitely can make life at
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- It really seems like anyone who moves at a place increases primarily his/her opponent's chance to win at that place.
- Is that a negative temperature?
- If you choose to move at 4, I'll move at 5, which starts something like a ladder via 6. So there is remote interaction after all!
- No, it's not like a ladder. After one more move, you get to choose if you want to go straight or bend it.
- This reminds me a bit of the game we call "Käsekästchen" (little cheese box) in German.
-- (Sebastian)
Arno: : W cannot save her stones on the second line. I think B has an easy win :o)
(Sebastian: - No idea what Arno had in mind, but this can't be wrong.
rubilia: - Just let's see :)
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/23/7ee8c2e29421e209f948f267d80c7fc8.png) | 181 strings - but seki? moves 10+x |
Frieder -- - Well lets Build an eye - - Prevent Black from living - Black escapes - ... (No comment) - , , W is living. Black Begin to build his secound eye
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/23/9deae701f496dcead7663e34f347a8cd.png) | 181 strings - but seki? moves 20+x |
Heres another 181-stringy monster. I don't really think it's stable. Who knows? (According to the ruleset, chose komi so that, if considered to be a "global seki", it's a tie: 0 in japanese, 3 in chinese counting.) -- rubilia
![[Diagram]](../../diagrams/1/09b3f9f45df585872905060b40de5ca9.png) | 181 strings again - but seki? |
I think on this one, White has the best chance to get some life. The first black ring (from the center) is dead, and White can salvage it. At least I have no idea how black could prevent that. -- (Sebastian)
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