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3-4 point high approach, one-space high pincer
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One-space high pincer

This pincer is undoubtedly severe, but joseki for it have taken a long time to develop (it has been adopted much more slowly than the Magic Sword).[1] For a time it was principally associated with Otake Hideo: that was back in the 1970s. There has been some recent research giving new joseki.


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Only answer?

For many years it was assumed that W2 here is the only reply. Some games in which White tries a instead have been seen since 2001.[1]


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Main line

Black is expected to play B1 here. NB that trying to connect under isn't good for Black. Now White a and b are seen.


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Variation 1

This is one standard continuation, which leads to a running fight on the upper side. White must of course attack, having given Black territory.


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Variation 2

This is a current idea, with White playing for immediate life; White 11 at a completes a joseki.

Alex Weldon: What is the point of B4 here? Clearly, it's to defend against some White move that would hurt Black, or make things too easy to White, but I don't see it. Someone clarify for me?



[1]

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Alternative

These plays are currently being experimented with: W1 provokes B2, and then White can try another butting play at W3.

Charles Matthews



Charles - you state above that connecting underneath is bad for Black. As a novice, the connection underneath would quite possibly be my preferred move here.

What are the considerations that make this a poor move relative to the others? It seems to me that 1 would support BC if white had a stone positioned near the hoshi point to the right.

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The wrong choice, but why?

Phlegmatic


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Ponnuki good for White

Charles I had this played against me once, ages ago. After B7 White connects the ponnuki, for superior shape. That is, B1 is a failure; if B3 is at 4 and White connects at 3 this is like the Bermuda triangle.

It was 25 years ago, and my opponent David Mitchell had been reading a Japanese joseki dictionary in which this diagram occurred. After the game he went back and translated the comment, 'bad for Black'. What's more he told me this, which is more than some players would do. Those were naive, unspoiled days.

Yep, that makes sense now. Thanks for showing me - Phlegmatic



[1]

A dirk is a long straight-bladed dagger. Hence the facetious name.



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