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GlobalSekiOngoingGame
PageType: OngoingGame     Keywords: Problem, Question

Rubilia proposed the following arrangement in MaximumNumberOfLiveGroups. This looks beautifully symmetric as it is, but I'd like to sacrifice its immaculate beauty by playing it. -- (Sebastian)

[Diagram]
181 strings - but seki?

B1 - no idea if this is a good move. Let's see what happens. -- (Sebastian)

W2 - same here :) -- rubilia

B3 - Here's my thought process:

  1. I have the eery feeling that whoever starts at a given place has no chance of getting life there him/herself, because the opponent can always block just enough.
  2. But wait a minute - isn't that always the case in Go? The only difference is that it's hard to see interaction between remote stones.
  3. I'm considering retracting my move to tenuki and try out if there is any of if it is all neutralized by the stones in between.
  4. But if I tenuki than you definitely can make life at B3.
  5. It really seems like anyone who moves at a place increases primarily his/her opponent's chance to win at that place.
  6. Is that a negative temperature?
  7. If you choose to move at a, I'll move at b, which starts something like a ladder via c. So there is remote interaction after all!
  8. No, it's not like a ladder. After one more move, you get to choose if you want to go straight or bend it.
  9. This reminds me a bit of the game we call "Käsekästchen" (little cheese box) in German.
 -- (Sebastian)


Heres another 181-stringy monster. I don't really think it's stable. Who knows? (According to the ruleset, chose komi so that, if considered to be a "global seki" ,it's a tie: 0 in japanese, 3 in chinese counting.) -- rubilia

[Diagram]
181 strings again - but seki?

I think on this one, White has the best chance to get some life. The first black ring (from the center) is dead, and White can salvage it. At least I have no idea how white [white? - don't you mean black?] could prevent that. -- (Sebastian)



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