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Beginners Study Discussion
Path: Study · Prev: · Next: BeginnerStudySection Bill Spight: Go pedagogy is not really very well understood, particularly in the early stages. There are certain basic concepts to master, but if you understand them reasonably well, you are already a fairly strong amateur! I have the fond notion that play on small boards gives a good start, even though I never even played on a 9x9 when I was learning, but always on a full board. The 3x3 teaches that the player with an eye has the advantage in a fight. The 5x5 shows how to live with 2 eyes, and a mistake can lead to a ko. When I was learning there were few go books in English, and I was unaware of the Japanese go books. Mostly I learned by playing, and my weakest opponent was a 5 kyu. In less than a year I was 4 kyu. What did I learn during that first year? Certainly not tesuji. It was then that I got a book on tesuji. I didn't even know the basics. Certainly not life and death. I didn't even know the basic vulnerable shapes. Certainly not shape. One of the first Japanese go books I bought dealt with shape. It was a real eye-opener. (I loved it.) I remember three things that I learned during that first year that I think were very important to my progress:
Dieter comments on Bill: You have told so before and it has made me reconsider my strong opinions on TeachingPaths more than any other comment. I still think you are the exception, but nonetheless other exceptions will exist and then again we have maybe been wrong all the time and more players should be initiated the way you were. The problem is that I think one can better stick with one approach until the need for another approach is apparent. The Korean university of Baduk can't come soon enough with a sound statistic study on this subject. Comments: I removed the discussion leading to the WikiMasterEdit of BasicRulesOfGo. --Dieter
Jan: Here's why I think BasicInstinct is important.
I've recently started teaching the game to a lot of novices (my friends at the Biton Go Club?) and there even seems to be a more basic skill needed to play the game: knowing the Basic Edge Patterns. Sure, you get to see them after a while, but it still brings back painful memories of my first struggles against IgoWin. Dieter removed Playing a game backward from recommended reading material for Life and death in the Beginner Study Section. Not that it is not recommended, but it is not particularly related to life and death. Hu: I probably have this all wrong and would gladly be enlightened, but I feel agrieved. What am I not understanding? It seems to me that I have put time and effort into editing the Beginner Study Section only to find that a day or two later they seem to have been completely erased by somebody reverting to a previous version and then making edits of their own. This has happened at least twice. Will the person who is reverting to previous versions of that page thereby erasing my edits from the version history please stop, cease and desist. Surely if you disagree with an edit you have the right to "edit it back". If this is done without reverting to the previous version, then others can see exactly what changes were made and by whom. It seems cowardly and nasty to repeatedly remove edits by reverting versions so that the edits are totally lost and the time the person put into thinking about them wasted and unrecorverable. The name of the person who made the original edits (Hu) that were destroyed doesn't even appear in the history because someone is exploiting the way SL php code collapses multiple edits into a single version. Because there is no record of the destroyed edits and the editors name is destroyed along with them, it is cowardly of the eraser to do this because one can't then be sure who even the eraser is! I was gently upbraded by the masters for destroying history by transferring instead of requesting renaming, and it seems to me that this is a similar transgression, but only worse, because my name (and effort) is deleted and the deleter is not identifiable. I probably have this all wrong and would gladly be enlightened. Grauniad: Should Section 11 (Strategic Concepts) of Beginner Study Section be extended to reference Strategy of go - introductory, perhaps modified as suggested in Basic Strategy of Go Discussion? (:-) Should there be another Section on tactics that refences Basic Tactics of Go, or is this covered elsewhere on the page? Path: Study · Prev: · Next: BeginnerStudySection This is a copy of the living page "Beginners Study Discussion" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |