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Plays against low Chinese opening
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Keywords: Opening, Question
Recently I often have to play against the low Chinese opening. Somehow I am always doing badly. What are good counter-strategies against this kind of opening?
Usually I play the sequence -- Arno Hollosi
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To Morten Pahle: I have make a comment on your reaction in Ten Kyu Nadare. However, a first remark will be that c rather than
To Arno Hollosi: Although I will usually play the same against the Chinese Opening, if you are not satisfied with the result you can play as in this diagram (of course both White and Black have different choices which are good). The advantage of this sequence might be that invading at the marked point here gives you slightly more room to work in than the invasion at the marked point in your diagram. -- Andre Engels
I might add that in Go World this variation is listed as the
more usual way of playing for White (I prefer it as well). For Black, I can't say I particularly like See Plays against low Chinese - follow-ups for White's later treatment of this area. -- Charles Matthews
However, in my experience this is not the more usual way of playing for Black. When you play
You don't have to invade quite so deeply. I've played this combination to break up the moyo before, which I got from The Chinese Opening by Kato Masao. Alternatively if Black plays
Kato also comments that answering at Low Chinese, High Chinese or Sanrensei - I play the same. -- HolIgor
For people who do not like playing against the Chinese Fuseki (and the Kobayashi Fuseki as well) the first question is why not play an immediate approach against Black's komoku? As soon as Black plays in the lower corner the most likely result when White plays in the upper left is some version of the Chinese. So if you don't like it, what argues against a pre-emptive strike now with Why feel that playing in the remaining corner is the only choice? Consider the "Shusaku-style Fuseki". It would not exist if White had not been ready to leave the last corner empty in order to challenge Black immediately and prevent him from forming a shimari in the upper right corner. This type of aggressive play was common when White received no komi.
I prefer the idea of playing
If Black responds in the lower right, then both players are interested in taking sente in order to play first in the upper left. One such example is White's choice of -- Dave Sigaty
I dislike white's low approach because then black could answer with this typical Joseki which ends in sente for black what lets him play in the remaining corner. White seems behind to me now. Playing Tenuki earlier doesn't feel look good for white, too. The high approach move is more flexible and thus playing tenuki is easier for white. Is there a fault in my thoughts? -- Basti 17k IGS
DaveSigaty: Naturally there are a lot of choices that Black (and White) can make here. However, there is a reason that the
DaveSigaty: White may also simply choose the usual extension at 6, again in relation to the upper right. Black can exchange a for b later in relation to the bottom. This seems to be why playing 6 at a has become more common in professional play. However, in this situation Path: InvasionItinerary · Prev: 52Invasion · Next: SanrenseiSimplestComments This is a copy of the living page "Plays against low Chinese opening" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |