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Thank You Move Discussion
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Keywords: Tactics
This page contains the discussion that was originally in Thank You Move.
A typical example is to peep at a one-space jump. It will normally cause the opponent to connect. But your stone, which is plastered against a wall of at least three stones, has very little value. In the example, yes, Black will respond at 2, but what is the value of 1 afterwards? On the other hand, for black to be able to defend at 2 is quite useful. Although White cannot at this moment cut at 2, it is still aji. Black has gained more in this exchange than White has. Such a situation, where one player plays a forcing move (kikashi), but the other benefits, is called a 'thank you move'. I don't think this example is exactly bad for White... A good number of peeps make good ladder blocks, depending on the situation. Is my example at Do not peep at cutting points better? Please comment. Thanks. --unkx80. BillSpight: I agree with unkx80. This example looks very much like a kikashi without loss. The White stones on the left look strong, and there is no obvious alternative. Besides, if White does not play White 1, does Black really want to play Black 2? There is a question of when to play the nozoki. My inclination is to wait, but it seems to largely be a question of style. Takagawa was a waiter, but Sakata likes to take his kikashi before it gets away. The question of whether to play kikashi or not can be quite subtle. For an example, see Costly Atari. Path: ForcingAndInitiative · Prev: KikashiAndInfluence · Next: Unkx80GoTermsQuestions This is a copy of the living page "Thank You Move Discussion" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |