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Descent
Difficulty: Beginner
Keywords: Shape, Go term
A descent is a stretch to or towards the edge of the board.
So is Descent is often a useful tesuji and makes good shape. It may for example gain important liberties. ExamplesComments on the term sagariJohn F. I'd like to make a general comment sparked off not by this page but by the one on [Sagari Tesuji] (now descent tesuji), though it seems to belong here as this is the definition page. Terminological inexactitudes abound on SL. Sometimes they give rise to useful discussion. Most often they don't but stay there to mislead future readers. Problems can arise whatever the language of the term, but it seems to me that the main problem arises when someone posts a Japanese term. This is a special problem because so many terms of Japanese origin are now used by western players as quasi-English terms, but either with different meanings from Japanese (e.g. yose, fuseki) or with a different range of coverage, e.g. hane ... and sagari. The example shown in Sagari Tesuji is not usually called sagari in Japan. It would most often be called orikiri, sometimes sagarikiri (oru is another way of saying sagaru). Indeed, the usual Japanese definition is telling: it is a nobi towards the edge. This tells us several things. One is that it is really a mistake to call a nobi a push, as some people do, but also that what is in the Japanese mind is a space for a stretch, i.e. ordinary sagari does not usually get used for a move onto the first line. This is where the -kiri comes in: end, limit. Rest of discussion moved to Japlish. HolIgor: I've checked with the Japanese books I have. Cho Chikun:
Ishida Yoshio:
Sagari is a term that I learned here in SL. I've learned to read a little bit Japanese afterwards. And the Japanese terms I met here were useful because they are easily recognizable. Now, what is a descent?
A slide is also a descent.
This is a copy of the living page "Descent" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |