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Go Server Discussion
Dieter: I repeat that on the informative page, there should not be a statement on which servers seem to be the favourites of SL deshis. Go Server reviews and reports:DGSI prefer playing on turn-based Go Servers like Dragon. It prevents me from making too silly moves due to time limits that rule real-time Go Servers. The simultaneous games teach me to review whole board situations over and over again. Which is a skill I use at IGS and my local club afterwards. About 8 games enable similiar sessions as on real-time servers, because some of my opponents are online at that time too, playing several moves within a few minutes. -- Frs (Jan 2003) DaveSigaty: I have also started playing on DGS recently (Feb. 2003). It has almost replaced regular on-line servers for me. There are two main reasons:
IGSI rather like the double click for a move feature in IGS, but I feel that the default client is pretty horrible. IGS does seem to have the bulk of the strongest Internet Go players though. -- exswoo No problem to find nice opponents within a few minutes (after checking their "stats" for equal strength, prefered time limits, and IGS expierence.) My convienence with IGS resulted in a "short help FAQ" for IGS beginners. -- Frs (Jan 2003) KGSThis is where I play the most often. The interface is really clean and there are actually some conversations going on in KGS, which is a lot more than I can say for the other two servers. I think this is the ideal server for teaching or experimental games. -- exswoo Plus: KGS deserves enormous credit for breaking the mold of the older servers (IGS and the NNGS-sourced family). By changing the basic operation of looking for a game, from challenging one person, to offering a game to anyone, it made a large improvement in the community feeling. -- JohnAspinall Minus: A closed-source client means you can't get rid of annoying features. My pet peeve: the constant stream of adolescent drivel in the "chat" pane, and I can't get rid of that pane. -- JohnAspinall
NNGSFewer users than on IGS, thus more problems to find nice opponents of equal strength. I prefer IGS. -- Frs (Jan 2003) NNGS has always had a very friendly, club-like atmosphere that makes it a very pleasant place to play. Rank-scumming, sandbagging, escaping, and other unpleasant behavior has generally been rare on NNGS. Unfortunately, attendance has gone down in attendance with the rise of KGS, but it's still a nice place. -- PatrickB Yahoo
Horrible. Many players are rude and will either: MSN Gaming ZoneCan play timed or untimed,and has a fair range of players. You do need to download their software and get a MSN .NET passport,but the games are fair and they do have some tournaments.--Tim Brent Dashn
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MiscTimBrent: I myself prefer the slower pace of Turn Based Go Servers in that I like taking my time and not being on one game for a long period.
JG: Terri Schurter wrote some excellent articles about Go servers in 2000. You can find them on the BGA web-site at Discussion: Which Go server is suitable for whom?Frs: What is the focus or concept of the Go servers? What culture (e.g. of communication) "rules" that Go server? Are most of the other players interested to increase their rank? Or do they communicate hints to weaker opponents? Or do Go servers support features for special-interest groups? Thus my proposal is: Separating Go servers into "recommended and acknowledged" and "other". SAS: I don't follow this argument at all. By all means add some information to answer questions such as those you mention - but what has that got to do with separating into "recommended and acknowledged" and "other"? Dieter: I think it is OK for deshi to give their opinion as below but SL as such should remain unbiased. List alphabetically or according to average number of users. ... and, simultaneously ... Andrew Walkingshaw: I couldn't agree more. It's not SL's place, I feel, to have some kind of "official opinion" on what Go servers people should play on. I like KGS, I'm sure many other people like IGS, and I'd be surprised if NNGS and dashn didn't have advocates here, too. This isn't to say people shouldn't express their opinion - but I believe it should be clearly expressed as a personal opinion. I've hence returned GoServers to something nearer its former form, with a note to state the popularity of IGS, NNGS and KGS. (Dec 2002) amc: I have a question to put here. How many of you, and for what reasons, have an account in more than one server? (of the same style, one real-time and one turn-based does not count) I've seen people with accounts both in IGS and KGS, why? Stefan: Some days I like hanging out at the "Crazy Horse", other days I feel more like joining my friends in the "Blue Oyster Bar". Just mingling with a different crowd every now and then. Dieter: Yesss ! The Blue Oyster Bar, where White begins ! Kinky ... This is a copy of the living page "Go Server Discussion" at Sensei's Library. ![]() |