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Ongoing Game Two Move Thirty Nine Discussed
   

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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 Move 39

DieterVerhofstadt (1k):
If Black 39 , then I'd probably answer at 40 here, aiming at A. In any case, White 40 at B could be answered at C without any problem.

MortenPahle (10k): (Not an excuse, but an explanation:) I saw this, but I thought that this also leves white completely settled on the left - his group and territory is safe. I realised that the keima was thinner, but didn't think that white would be wanting to cut, since it would mean giving up most of his group. However, I did think black would end in sente, which he probably will not...


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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 Move 45

I think Bill meant this diagram for move 45.
(Bill: Right you are. :-) At first I thought this was better than a Black gote, but the gote is really pretty big.)
Black takes the upper left with 49, and White 50 connects underneath. But Black has sente and the position contains a lot of bad aji for White. In particular, Black A, probably not immediately, leaves White with a heavy burden.

MortenPahle: Doh! When I looked at this line, I imagined that white 8 at 9 would actually recapture the corner - but after some more reading I see that that is wrong.


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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 Move 45 (ii)

This what you read ? (Couldn't resist) --Dieter


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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 Move 45 (iii)

No, it was more like this. After 5, white and black both have 3 liberties, but black needs more approach plays to capture, so white wins the semeai. I'd not 'read' the black play at 'a' threatening capture or connection&capture ... --Morten

Bill Spight:


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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 Move 45 (iv)

B 6 is a play to know about. It comes up quite often.

Discussion:


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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 (41 - 50)

MortenPahle - the question is whether there's anything left to strike once the fist is made ;^)

Bill Spight: B 41 looks better at 50, eh?
Then W 40 doesn't look so big. MortenPahle - In fact, B41 looks rather rediculous at present :-(

MortenPahle: Hmm. This can get tricky. Black 39 may turn out to have been greedy.

DieterVerhofstadt: Thin, not greedy.

HolIgor 42: Black has taken the corner. It is an established fact. White's intention is to either limit black in sente or have a furikawari. I wonder why black did not play at '3' at move 39 instead?

DieterVerhofstadt: Yes. IF I would play in that area, I'd indeed played at '3'. The keima leaves a weakness.

Bill: It looks like B 45 will end up with gote. Maybe it would be worth it to play at 48 and take sente.

MortenPahle: I don't understand your comment, Bill. Can you elaborate?

Holigor 46: I thought that white should not determine the position at this move and try to keep a little ahead of black. (--Dieter: you're probably right. I thought this way there would be more aji.)

MortenPahle: At the end of this sequence I am not sure how to continue - I have the feeling that white has thwarted my original intentions, but I take the risk of putting my head on the block and continue what I started .... Just for my continuous improvement, can one of you give me an example of what could have happened if black 39 at 43?


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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 (41 - 50)

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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 (31 - 40)

unkx80 33: Because white can play at 34, I guess black 33 might be better off playing at either 34 or 37?

Bill Spight 34: Trying to play lightly.

Bill Spight: We seem to have stalled, and at a very interesting point, too. ;-) Too much kibitzing? I would find that inhibiting, even though I would be glad for later discussion.

White fell behind early on, but the center fight offers possibilities. :-)

HolIgor: It seems that black resigned.

MortenPahle 37: Why not?

Bill Spight: B 37 at 'a' is also a thought.

MortenPahle 39: Make a fist before striking :-)

HolIgor 40: Aye, aye, sir



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